Who ducked Herol Graham?

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  1. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Graham won that McCallum fight.
     
    atberry, Dec 20, 2012
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  2. Malden

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    Yeah, and its a bit funny that he became WBA manadatory to Kalambay 1,5 year later.
     
    Malden, Dec 20, 2012
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  3. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Graham's problem was not having a decent promoter for the first half of his career and then going with the inept and dodgy Eastwood.

    He just struggled to get meaningful fights with other visible well regarded ranked opposition.Basically just tended to have to go the old school Brit\Euro route and try and wait on a shot from the high ranking his Euro belts gave him.Thus you get it being at least 8-9 years before he's even in contention.

    As for fighters that actually avoided him.Sibson is probably the main one, he was a bit more established, had better contacts and it wasn't worth the risk.Then Watson, Eubank, Benn all stayed away when they were on the way up, though Graham had got himself in the mix for world title fights by then and didn't really need them.

    Basically he has a case for being avoided on the British scene and just suffered from a lack of contacts regarding fights with foreign based contenders like Hamsho etc rather than being avoided per se
     
    lora, Dec 20, 2012
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  4. HEADBANGER

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    Graham was a skilled fighter and i think it made sense for fighters to avoid him because he would have given stylistic problems to anyone. He might have caused Hagler trouble for 7/8 rounds but i think Hagler would have got him eventually, and i think Hearns would have bombed Graham out early doors.
     
    HEADBANGER, Dec 20, 2012
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  5. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    I agree... very underrated fighter, and as mentioned earlier, was giving Jackson all he could handle until Julian landed one of his signature BOMBS.
     
    janeschicken, Dec 20, 2012
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  6. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    Hard fight to score, but it easily could of been scored either way
    According to Graham he asked McCallum for a rematch and McCallum turned him down.
     
    general zod, Dec 22, 2012
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  7. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    Good post
    I agree his team should of promoted him better and got him more big money fights.
     
    general zod, Dec 22, 2012
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  8. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    Interesting fight, maybe Hagler could outwork him to grab the latter rounds and get the nod.
    I dont think Hearns hit as hard as Jackson, so Graham has more of a chance of winning by ud .
     
    general zod, Dec 22, 2012
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  9. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats true but Hearns was much better boxer than Jackson!
     
    FilipMNE, Dec 22, 2012
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  10. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    True.
    Jackson was a bit kind crude.
    How many southpaws did Hearns fight?
     
    general zod, Dec 22, 2012
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  11. The13thRound

    The13thRound Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Steve Bunce is an overly patriotic rose tinted glasses hype job buying presenter like most of the uk presenters pretty clueless.
     
    The13thRound, Dec 22, 2012
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  12. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Hearns would have outboxed Graham and stopped him in the middle rounds, of that I'm sure.

    As for Graham ''giving Jackson all he could handle'' - understatement of the century :lol:

    It was ridiculously one-sided.
     
    Beeston Brawler, Dec 22, 2012
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  13. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dont know but i know one thing Hearns had that straight right hand that was nightmare for all southpaw fighters...
     
    FilipMNE, Dec 22, 2012
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  14. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    The southpaws that Hearns faced as far as I know are former world champ Saensak Muangsurin, and then Marvin Hagler.

    As for Hearns-Graham, I think the style is all wrong for Herol, Hearns was excellent against Benitez, and always outboxed boxers and counter punchers
     
    knockout artist, Dec 22, 2012
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