Who else does this "move?"

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  1. Mario040481

    Mario040481 Member Full Member

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    I like Erik Morales a lot. One of my favorite fighters and I believe I've watched all of his available fights I've seen online. In doing so I have noticed that in every one of those fights he does the following* move, or I think better said, he has a few variations on the following theme as seen in the link below. Now, like in life, there's likely nothing new under the sun in boxing. Be that as it may, I don't think i have ever noticed what he is doing done by other fighters, at least not in such an obvious and plain to see manner. I have seen Canelo do something vaguely similar though. Link should take you to 8:13 ish in the video, when Erik follows Manny into the corner and Alan Massengale says "...now he is on the attack using the left hand"
     
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  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Bronsonville Full Member

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    Do you mean that 'inverted uppercut' he hits Pac with on the ropes? That's what my dad calls it, and he's taught it to quite a few people.

    Miguel Canto used to do it. Joe Brown, too. It's not a special move. What's special is pulling it off how Morales does it.
     
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  3. Mario040481

    Mario040481 Member Full Member

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    yeah, that is pretty much what I meant and what i was asking. Like I said, I highly doubted it wasn't something many others do, I think it just so also happens to be the other thing you mentioned, it is how he does it. It is such an exaggerated movement you cannot help but notice it when he would do it. Thank you for the answer, man! Been wondering that for a bit
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don`t get it, all he did was throw a few jabs the feint withe right to distact, then followed with a left, do you it`s a rare combo to use?
     
  5. roughdiamond

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    He means that slightly odd uppercut he throws. It's like a mixture between a jab and an uppercut, splitting the guard. You could just call it a 'long uppercut' as well. I always think of a fencer when I throw it.

    As long as it works, it works.
     
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    Mario040481 Member Full Member

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    It is more the giant exaggeration that baits the opponent to raise his guard, then Erik usually "stalls" for a beat and the gloves come down a bit or are opened/spread a bit by the opponent who was expecting a shot that didn't come, and maybe they are trying to get an idea of where he/his hands are at, and when they do that, they are hit by the follow up off beat shot that they seemingly don't expect or think should be coming. when it works that is.
     
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    roughdiamond Bronsonville Full Member

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    Well Boxing is all about rhythm and operates on 'beats' and timing, analogy - a music piece. What Morales is doing is performing certain moves to create 'half beats' and disorient his opponent. Great fighters will do this in their own ways, and its one of the things which makes Boxing such a special art.
     
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  8. Mario040481

    Mario040481 Member Full Member

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    Very much so. I dunno, I just have always thought it looks pretty neat, and it was frequently successful
     
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    willcross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Looks like something Walcott would do maybe
     
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  10. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That might very well be the most astute comment ever on a boxing forum.
     
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  11. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    Looks similiar to Razor Ruddock's 'Smash' move
     
  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That was a tricky move. Erik Morales was a great technician
     
  13. Tippy

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    Donald Curry threw that type of left, after a right hand or feint with the weight on the front leg, Burley as well, although alot more flashy often jumping in the air. McLarnin too I believe, although Burley and McLarnins were from a more unorthodox position, with McLarnins being in counter to a jab

    Morales had a damn great right uppercut feint to straight/overhand right, beautiful punch.
     
  14. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Bronsonville Full Member

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    You flatter me.
     
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  15. Mario040481

    Mario040481 Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the replies! After rereading my thread title here, it seems that it could be taken as though I was meaning something like "Who else can throw this great shot? no one but Morales, everyone else sucks donkey dong..." I always try and remind myself to be much more specific in what I write on the various forums but that requires a bit of forethought and memory and...and....wait, I can't remember what...
     
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