Who else goes 5-1-0 over Liston, Frazier & Foreman

ESB Frank Bruno of a week ago.

 

I don't think anybody could do it. Holyfield, Holmes and Louis have a chance, but I also think it's entirely possible each one of them loses to all three men. Lewis could get knocked out by either Liston or Foreman, and I think Tyson is stylistically at a disadvantage for both those guys and it's not a given he gets past Frazier either. I don't think either of the Klitschko brothers could do it. Bowe is way too inconsistent and Fury too unproven for me.

So yeah, my short answer is nobody.

 

Holy at 32-33 do not go 3-0 against Frazier and Foreman. He looked quite bad at that age and would in all probability go 0-3 against them. In real life he lost to Moorer and Bowe and just edged Mercer when 32-33.

 

I like him. He's an absolute gentleman and takes me back a little to the event. If that's the worst he does we are in good shape that's for sure.

 

Rocky Marciano

 

My only guess would be Lennox Lewis ... between 1992 and 2003.

The 1992 Lewis who fought Ruddock would have a shot at Liston of '64.

The '93 Lewis who fought Bruno would have a shot at Liston in '65.

The '99 Lewis who fought Holyfield might be able to beat '71 Frazier.

The '02 Lewis who beat Tyson might be able to beat '74 Frazier and '74 Foreman.

The '03 Lewis who beat Vitali might be able to beat '75 Frazier.

But those are all tall tasks. However, Lewis had greater size and power, so he might not struggle with them like Ali did on occasion.

 

Marciano's pro career didn't even last 11 years. His pro career was only eight years.

 

Tbh I think Marciano goes 0-6 here. Best chance of victory is Frazier of the 2nd fight, but I can’t even give him that because he won’t even be at his best given the timeline.

 

It was just meant as a joke, due to all these heated Marciano discussions.

 

Mike Tyson.

 

Highly unlikely. Tyson's prime was like what, 2-3 years according to some people here? Doubt he'd have the longevity to beat those guys over an 11 year stretch remaining in peak form. Those would all be gruelling difficult opponents even on an individual basis with full training camps, let alone facing them multiple times in a row.

 

The Big Dog...LL

Maybe Joe Louis.

The two Liston wins are more impressive on paper than in the ring. Sonny was not in fighting condition for either fight. The first fight he was hardly in 3 round shape. I don't know what was on Sonny's mind but it wasn't the same boxer who wrecked the world on his way up.

Point being that there are a few heavys that could start out 2-0. Agajnst this version of Liston.

 

Louis has a shot that’s it’s. Lennox’s chin isn’t surviving 6 fights like that. Most heavyweights even greats would be like 0-6 or 1-5 vs. that run.

 

Oh ****, my apologies

 

Agreed. I can see a prime Tyson beating a '64 and '65 Liston, and Frazier of fights 2, and 3. I'd favor Foreman over him, and ever so slightly FOTC Frazier, so even if we give him the advantage of being prime for all these fights (a luxury Ali didn't and couldn't have possibly received), I doubt he would've matched Ali's 5-1-0. He does MUCH worse, if he starts his career at 1960 and has to fight them over a 14 year period.