Who else thinks a prime RJJ beats the whole LHW division

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What a terrible post.

    Roy was caught by a decent shot against Del Valle, but his back foot also slipped hard on the wet canvas, that the referee had to wipe with a towel on 2-3 occasions.

    He did not struggle down the stretch.

    He didn't have the chin to beat the best LHW's of today? And it's a given that they'd have gotten the opportunity to have landed the perfect shot to have taken him out?

    He didn't get old overnight?

    When he fought Tarver, he was 35 years old. He'd had 50 fights. He'd fought across 5 divisions, that included dropping back from HW in only a few months.

    How did Tarver fare against Hopkins when he dropped back to LHW after playing a role in Rocky?

    How did Chris Byrd fare when he dropped back to LHW to face Shaun George?

    How did Chad Dawson fare when he dropped back to SMW to face Ward?

    You can read each fighters account of what they endured and how they felt.

    Those guys were never the same after.

    Roy's attributes were based around his incredible athleticism which he heavily relied upon. To stick around into his late 30's and beyond, he had to adapt. Sadly, he didn't. But that doesn't take away from what he was when he was at his best.

    He legitimately beat Tarver in the first fight, despite being absolutely exhausted due to the weight loss. So there is nothing to suggest that he couldn't have beaten Tarver or Johnson had he have fought them earlier.
     
  2. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Reggie Johnson was another level to Jack, Fonfara and Barrera so was Hill really !
     
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  3. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Roy made no efforts to fight more than just DM. You are out of your element here I sat and watched Jones talk for 10 years on HBO about how he was going to make all these big fights and not one single one happened. Better question is why Jones all the sudden became a world traveler once he started getting knocked out? Why couldn't he travel a few times in his career? Hagler went over to the UK and lifted Minter's belt. Ali traveled to fight. But Jones was too good to travel? LOL. Beat it meth mouth.
     
  4. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    How many times do i have to ask you? The 5 best ones in Roy's era to suggest he runs through this? Ok just the best 3 then??
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ha!

    So is this supposed to be more evidence of how he couldn't have beaten today's best LHW's?

    Roy wouldn't go to Germany to face Dariusz. And how could anybody objectively criticise him for that, when he'd been robbed in the Olympics, and he'd seen Dariusz feign injury to get Rocchigiani disqualified in their first fight?

    Dariusz also had zero interest in going to the U.S. to fight.

    He fought Tarver at 35, after 50 fights.

    This thread is looking hypothetically at the BEST version of Roy who fought at LHW.

    You guys are hilarious.

    You'll ignore the guys he beat, and the manner in which he beat them, to focus on who he didn't fight, and who he fought late in his LHW career after dropping back from HW.

    Also, if Roy had beaten Dariusz, you and Rico would more than likely have dismissed the win, questioning who Dariusz had fought etc.
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    DM made no efforts whatsoever. He had is own thing going on German TV and never sought out any fight with Roy.
     
  7. Okin129

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    Roy Jones jr. would probably beat all of them including Andre Ward and Sergey Kovalev.

    He was really special, i would favor the best version of Roy Jones jr. over Andre Ward or Sergey Kovalev any day.
     
  8. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    On the one hand you make him out to be superman then make excuses when he gets KTFO by men who are no younger than him anyway

    :risas3:
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Too many savage and big punchers for Roy's glass chin to navigate its way through without it getting shattered into thousands of shards. Roy's glass whiskers make Cuban glass look like titanium.

    Kovalev
    Stevenson
    Beterbiev
    Gvozdyk
    Bivol
    Alvarez
    Barrera
    Smith Jr.
    Shabranskyy
    Kalajdzic
    Mekhontsev
    Browne

    Some absolutely fearsome savage punchers there, and everyone knows Roy avoided savage punchers like the plague.

    Biggest punchers Roy fought at 175 if you please.

    I'll throw a few names out there to help you kick start your engines.

    Otis Grant maybe?
    Ricky Frazier?
    Glen Kelly perhaps?
    What about Tony Hanshaw or Prince Badi Ajamu?
    Monty Griffin?
    Derrick Harmon?
    Mick McCallum?
    Reg Johnson who stopped a whopping 3 of his 11 opponents fought at LHW and couldn't even stop glass jawed Viking Ole Klemetsen who used to get laid out cold regularly by milkmen and street vendors?

    What about Eric Harding with his whopping 25% KO percentage or renowned KO artist Clinton Woods?

    Me thinks Ricky Hall and Dave Telesco would all rank above those chaps which is pretty damn damning.

    Or maybe Lou DeValle? Didn't he drop Roy and make each one of his legs dance to two different genres of music at the same time?

    Or maybe that Tarver chap who I'm sure knocked Roy the F out?

    And what about a certain Glen Johnson who IIRC sparked Roy out cold with an innocuous little love tap?

    There isn't a single one of those guys whose power is even in the same ballpark as Kovalev's, Adonis' or Beterbiev's. Not even remotely close.

    This is the kind of power we're talking about when it comes to Kovalev, Adonis and Beterbiev

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    This is what happens to Roy's glass mandible when he's faced at best average punchers in Tarver and Glen at 175

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    This only ends one way folks

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    Serge destroys

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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Is there a feature on here that enables posters to like their own posts?
     
  11. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I liked ya mate i liked ya lol
     
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  12. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Didn't Roy do a fine job of running through his era serge?
     
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks man hopefully that will be the first of thousands.
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    So: A glass jawed fighter who started at JMW, ended up fighting a top 10 HW at 34, yet he never took risks and chose the path of least resistance?

    Haha!


    What sort of a guy can't appreciate the huge difference in circumstances between a SMW/LHW, to 2 of the most famous HW's in history?


    How ignorant can a guy be?

    In the last 5 years, I have proved your statements to be false over and over. I've given you huge amounts of evidence, yet here you are with the above. Ignore and repeat.

    You're a joke.


    How about you actually giving us a break down as to why Roy's career played out in the way that it did?
     
  15. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Even when i go to morrisons i ask for a like from the cashiers now. My life is incomplete without them
     
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