Who else thinks a prime RJJ beats the whole LHW division

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  1. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Based on the fact that Hill is widely considered one of the top 10 LHW's in history.
    The better question should be, who have any of them beaten to be considered better
    than Hill, let alone Jones. I'm a big fan of Ward and Kovalev, but lets be serious.
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    lol there's a like on its way to you as I type this
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    lol and another
     
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  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why should I even bother debating you?

    Nobody has mentioned anything about Foster or Spinks, and why are you only focusing on the low level guys he beat??

    Roy also looked good against Hopkins, Toney, Malinga, Sosa, Griffin, Hill, R Johnson, Woods and Ruiz etc.

    You dig yourself the biggest hole without even realising it. You say he had a pathetic chin, yet he spent years at LHW when he could have just stayed at SMW for the majority of his career. So why does he not credit for having fought naturally bigger guys whilst possessing a pathetic chin?

    No, Ruiz wasn't a great HW like Mike, but he was still a tough, top 5-10 HW of his time.

    Spinks was a true ATG. And whilst he deserves huge credit for having a run at HW, you have to note that he was younger than Roy, he'd had less fights, and he was naturally bigger. Roy started out at MW, and even had a few fights as a JMW.

    It's a complete myth that Roy didn't chase down the biggest fights of his time. It's a myth that I have repeatedly exposed. I have given you links, excerpts and interviews, with fighters, managers, trainers and TV execs etc. But being the ignorant guy that you are, you don't want to acknowledge them.
     
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  5. Liquid Fire

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    You have said he would achieve the feat of beating Ward, Kovalev, Stevenson, Beterbiev... Based on what? Who's he beat comparable to those 4? Four names please? I don't think those 4 are unbeatable & nor do i think it's a given they all beat RJJ. What i do find irritating is suggesting Hill runs through today's division..

    Dariusz out boxed him. Now tell me why those 4 can't? AB's a little green sure.. Ward? Kovalev? Stevenson?
     
  6. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I just liked my wife.
     
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  7. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Bit late now..
     
  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Give her one for me.






















    A like that is lol
     
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  9. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    You only just noticed? Page 6...
     
  10. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    :risas3:

    Rita sue & bob too.. Get on it serge with my pleasure lol
     
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  11. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I just liked my self with a carrot.
     
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  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Are you for real??

    Seriously??

    Where I have I said he would have ran through the division?

    How many times do you need it explaining it to you??

    I never said that. However, I do think he'd be favoured over everyone today. Now if you actually read what what I've wrote instead of saying you can't be arsed, you'd realise how my opinions have been formed. I have given you specific examples, and I've given you some an*logies to consider. I have also listed what I think are Roy's top 5 wins at the weight.

    If you're not prepared to read my posts and you don't want an objective debate, then don't quote me again.
     
  13. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    No i acknowledged that part. I just want you to state who were the best fighters in his era. For the record..

    Top 3 RJJ era LHWs?
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sure.

    It was a perfect shot.

    Pretty much anybody can get taken out with a perfect shot.

    The question is: Would they have had the opportunity to have landed it?
     
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  15. Serge

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    Thing is, and I know how ludicrous this is going to sound to all those of you who do not worship at the altar of Roy's sack, I do think that the Roy faithful do genuinely actually believe that Roy's chin isn't forged out of the weakest known substance found on planet Earth. Their man crush on him is so overwhelming and potent and they're so blinded by his athleticism that they've somehow managed to convince themselves that not only did he not always have hideous punch resistance but, as insane and ridiculous as this sounds, he actually has a decent chin lol
     
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