Who else thinks Fury was probably lucky that the Haye fight didn't happen?

Haye is one of the most overrated fighters in history. Fury would have destroyed him way before Bellew did.

There's a reason Haye kept ducking a Wlad rematch, Vitali, Charr and Fury two times. Even an old Briggs would have beaten him. He was in shape in 2016. He didn't want this fight either.

 

I can see that line of thinking, but I find it hard to un-see what happened in each man's respective careers after 2013, and to not allow it to enter my thinking. I also thought at the time that Fury had a much better chance than most others gave him.

Haye might well have been further past his best than we all realised in 2013 - he was reportedly ravaged by injuries already by that point and never won a fight of any significance afterwards.

On top of that, there is an argument to be made that Fury is prone to fighting to the level of his opponent - making harder work of guys we've expected him to breeze past and then beating better fighters, as an underdog in the cases of Wladimir and Wilder (perhaps even Chisora first time out, crazy as that seems now), much more convincingly than most people predicted. We can only go on what we see, so it made sense at that point that he was a big underdog when the Haye fight was announced, but I had a feeling he was being underestimated back in 2013 as a result of this - and his career since then has bolstered that belief.

Haye was a very, very fine Cruiser, but in comparison to that he was largely smoke and mirrors at Heavyweight, and I think had the fight gone ahead with Fury in 2013 it would likely have proved a miscalculation that backfired on him.

 

I dunno, klitschko had that great jab that kept Haye at bay for 12 rounds. Fury doesn’t have that and doesn’t fight the same way.
I’ve boxed with a broken big toe on my right foot and it wasn’t fun. I can definitely see why Haye was unable to pull the trigger that night.

back then I would give Haye a good chance of dropping fury for sure but I’m not sure he gets the job done

 

Another Fury thread? I'm sure I've seen 1 of these before somewhere.....

Still remember that ringside thing they did with Nelson & Smith I think it was, one of the funniest face offs I've seen....press conference wasn't half bad either mind.

 

I think it was the camp where Haye did his shoulder which ended his career really.

I always thought Haye would have beaten him. At that time. Certainly then anyway. In Cunningham can put you down, Haye can sleep you.

Haye was very good against fighters whose power he wasn’t wary of. I think he could have stopped him.

 

Fury took that fight right after Cunningham floored him with the over hand swing. That's the punch Haye's specializes in so naturally most people thought Haye was going to knock his block clean off. Fury hadn't yet established a high level boxing technique. That came a year later when he Mayweather'd Chisora.

Its in fashion to crap all over Fury now now as a ducker , a coward etc. But David Haye is not even a shade of Usyk. Fury who understands boxing knew David Haye had a huge flaw in his game he could exploit. Fury knew how easily he could take advantage of Haye's balance issues after he missed his hayemakers. He had the exact same confidence for Haye as he did for Klitschko.

The fight would have been a methodical beatdown for David Haye. When spies told Haye that Fury was systematically dismantling Cunningham in sparring he immediately cancelled the contract.

 

I can't see Haye at that point of his career beating Fury tbh.

Even if Haye managed to land clean and possibly put Fury on the canvas I doubt he manages to keep him there.

If Fury can take clean Wilder bombs and recover and overcome then he does so more easily with Hayes shots imo.

I see Fury stopping Haye here, or Hayes corner throwing in the towel/Ref stoppage, after Haye has some early success.

 

David Haye had a bruised pinky toe that night...

 

The only person who is lucky it didn't happen is David Deron Haye, hence he pulled out twice with "injuries". And had he really been as injury-prone as he claimed at the time (not impossible: see Bellew x2), that would have been a significant liability. Pumped up 33 year old Haye had also been inactive for more than a year and was, in Fury's words, "a celebrity little fighting man" by that point.

Haye was a bigger puncher than Cunningham but so were Wlad and Wilder. Cunningham had better skills and stamina than Haye, who didn't put daylight between himself and Valuev over 12 rounds (when the narrative was that he needed to to get the decision in Germany).

The fact that Fury was willing to fight Haye immediately after Cunningham (as well as 23 year old Price at 18, Wlad away and Wilder x3 away) is good evidence that Fury had no concerns with his chin and was very confident he'd beat him. He knew that Haye would underestimate him and end up paying for it. Fury was 25 and only getting better at that point and he often fights to the perceived level of his opponents. It's likely that we would have seen a career-best performance from Fury, who had never been more hungry or motivated.

Haye was less durable than Wilder and much smaller. Fury would have got on top of him in the middle rounds and stopped him.

 

Haha...no

 

SMH, your comments are backing away from the title of your thread.
What was your thought process here? Let me see, there's a feeding frenzy against Fury b/c the Usyk fight was bottled. We need another Fury topic and I'll use a click bait title. To answer the title of your thread...

It's mostly YOU. In other words, Haye is lucky the fight didn't happen.

 

If Haye had absolutely anything left in the tank I think he would have decimated a big target like Fury

 

Seeing Haye's best and Fury's worst, I don't think anyone should let Fury's 0 fool them into an obliviously lopsided likelihood of outcomes in Fury's favour. I don't know if that was a good quality sentence. I am not English by birth. I was born in Alabama.