Who exactly has Floyd Ducked????

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  1. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    At this point he would have GONE UP to 147 to fight them, he then went all the way UP TO 154 to fight one of them. :good

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEHF5HX6Jb0[/ame]
     
  2. cilldara11

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    The list of suspects is surprisingly short given all the **** the guy gets. It looks likely that he'll fight Mosley and Pacquaio, the two guys that respectively beat down the two fighters he was supposedly avoiding like the plague ( Margarito/Cotto)
     
  3. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    He didn't duck anyone (the whole ducking thing is bull**** anyways) but there's alot of solid fighters that I would've liked to see him fight that he didn't.
     
  5. cilldara11

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    Williams doesn't bring enough to the table for the Miguel Cotto's and Shane Mosley's of the world to fight him. Hardly surprising that Floyd wouldn't. Williams has a few rung in the ladders to climb before he gets a shot at the Floyd/ Pacquaio types.
     
  6. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    1. Margarito - although, no doubt he would have been ducking Baldomir...??
    2. Mosley - to be fair though, both boxers could have made the fight years back, so both avoided each other for a while. Most likely down to both not willing to give the other an opportunity.
    3. Paul Williams - although the majority of Welterweights have avoided him, except Margarito.

    I don't really count Cotto because once again that bout could have happened years back, but Arum didn't think Cotto was ready. The calls for Mayweather to face Cotto, as far as I am aware, only started after Mayweather came out of semi-retirement to face Hatton.
     
  7. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didnt duck anyone IMO, at 130-135 he fought the best at 140 Hatton and TSZYU fougth so he settled for Gatti.

    when Hatton won the title he said he wasnt ready. Mosley could have fought him years ago but wanted to move up and cash out against ODLH, no shame there,

    and as far as Cotto he was green and it wouldnt have meant anything, in 2006 Mosley said his tooth hurt, and as far as Paul Williams he was too high risk low reward for someone who has been a champion for a decade. the Mayweather's Mosley's and Pacquiao's of the world should be fighter other long time champs not alphabet upstarts
     
  8. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Margarito is the only one worth really talking about. The Mosley-duck issue is bogus since Mayweather chased him when Mosley had the leverage and didn't want it and then Mosley wanted it when Mayweather was the man and Mayweather returned the snub. Like the poster above mentioned, Paul Williams needs some better performances and increased drawing power before being considered for a fight with Mayweather.

    Arum was the person who said that Cotto wasn't ready when there was talk about Mayweather/Cotto.

    Margarito was at the top of his game and certainly earned a fight with Mayweather when Mayweather decided to retire. Would have been a big fight with a big payday for both. I wouldn't say that Mayweather choosing to fight Baldomir over Margarito is a duck at the time since the money was the same and Baldomir had the belt. I mean, what fight would you have taken? But yea, disappointing the Mayweather didn't fight Margo back in 2007/2008 although Margo certainly ruined his legacy and shouldn't really be considered a great fighter anymore.
     
  9. Brickhaus

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    Pretty much. It's not that he specifically ducked anyone, but it's undeniable that he'll take a fight that's less of a challenge for the same money as one that's more of a challenge. The fact that he didn't fight Tszyu, Hatton or Cotto at 140, waited 4 or so years to fight Mosley (who's no bigger now than he was then) and waited until all the other top dogs at WW either lost or moved out of the weight class is somewhat damning.

    Do I understand WHY he didn't fight the guys he didn't fight? Sure, but he avoided challenges after Castillo, other than Hoya (where the money was just too big not to take the risk).
     
  10. Jay Cutler

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    Why would anybody fight Paul Williams? The reward and respect aspect is huge, but in all likelihood that man is really a Middleweight cutting weight to fight smaller fighters.

    As we see, Margarito's ****ing huge, and Quintana is a Junior Middle now.

    I just don't understand the reasoning. No major player will fight Paul at WW because its a stupidly hard fight, and its not like there aren't bigger paydays out there than Williams.
     
  11. Delroc

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    cotto
    margarito
    pacquiao
    mosley(prime)
    kostya tszyu

    just because he "said" he wanted to fight them dosent mean he wanted to. Mayweathers whole persona revolves around him "being the best" but if he really did fight the best he wouldn't have so many doubters.

    you can fool some of the people all the time.
    all of the people some of the time.
    but you cant fool all the people all the time.
     
  12. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Exaclty.
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    not exactly ducked, but cotto-mayweather was the biggest fight in boxing back then in 2008 after floyd beat hatton and cotto beat shane but sadly, floyd's team said that cotto is not a PPV attraction while floyd chose to retire.
     
  14. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    :lol: Oh so he ducked "prime" mosley? Ok, that video shows him calling out both Tszyu and Mosley, try harder next time. When was Mosley "prime" and how did Floyd duck him?
     
  15. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    He never avoided Pacquiao, it was both there fault for adding unrealistic stipulations.
    Prime Mosley avoided Mayweather because he never wanted to give him a shot.
    Tszyu v Mayweather, this bout never came close to even happening, even though it would have been a great bout. You can't just blame Mayweather. Tszyu was out for a year or so before he fought Hatton, then retired afterwards.