Who fought a better version of Cotto: Pac or Floyd

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Mayweather. Pacquiao fought a good version of Cotto, but there were some issues with Cotto in that fight that he didn't face in this fight. He basically trained himself in the Pacquiao fight, he had to cut more weight, and his confidence was still shaken from the Margo fight. Against Mayweather he was as confident as he had been since 2008, he had a real trainer, he was in shape, had a good gameplan, showed good defense, and good stamina. He didn't have to cut as much weight either.
     
  2. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather. Confidence and a real trainer the difference.
     
  3. pirao666

    pirao666 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto was shot when Pac fought him, but 2 and a half years later he's better according to *****s :lol::rofl
     
  4. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    So he's a better boxer now but more suited to 147?

    Since weight didn't really matter in this one due to Mayweather being a welterweight anyway I think it's fair to say Mayweather beat the better, more skilled version.
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    it means that his competition at WW are tougher and naturally, he would struggle a bit more and lose some.

    good questions. my answers:

    1. because cotto had just been beaten by pac and at that time, no one is there for cotto anymore aside for berto. 154 gives him a chance to start anew and it gives plenty of promise since 154 is a weak division. basically, cotto lost out on being the top WW after pac and decided to move on. he could still make 147 if he wants to especially at that time.

    2. because floyd got to cotto first. remember that even when floyd was calling pac publicly, roger (or was it jeff?) mayweather has been saying that arum would be surprised on who would floyd fight next (pertaining to cotto back then since everyone thought that arum still had cotto under TR). pac's team is trying to negotiate for a 147 fight and cotto could have gotten 150 if not for floyd. remember that cotto is the 3rd highest earner after pac and floyd so i think that pac would accept 150 as a compromise but floyd already has a hold on cotto way before.
     
  6. arsabs

    arsabs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that is pretty stupid for you to think. clottey only lost convincingly once, have faced far better opposition than foreman did. lets not stop at foreman, how about mayorga and margarito? :yep
     
  7. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I keep hearing Pac beat a younger fresher Cotto, and the Cotto that floyd beat was past his Physical prime .. Really ????

    Has it dawn on anyone that Floyd is older then both Pac and Cotto at 35, and it was an older slower Floyd the beat a younger Cotto.
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    has it dawned to you that pac and cotto has more wars and mileage than floyd whose style (safety first) is more suited for longevity? and did you consider ring age where pac is years older than floyd?
     
  9. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Which fight was Cottto weighd drained and comming of a fight where he was blugdened near death by a foe with plaster wrapped hands?

    Mayweather fought a better Cotto than Pacquiao.
     
  10. theboss

    theboss Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: So according to you he got better after a second blugdening ? :yep
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    cotto was rejuvenized and repaired. lol :D
     
  12. maxbs

    maxbs New Member Full Member

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    Pacquia's win was more impressive, Mayweather fought a better version of Cotto. That's my 2 cents
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Pbf fought the better version.
     
  14. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    dude sit the **** down .. Floyd has more fights then cotto.. Pac at the beginning of his career fought to millage beaten champs in Erick Morales and Barrera .. Everyone else was fluff . Cotto was damaged by Margarito and Margarito has not been the same since that Fade he caught from Shane..

    So your more millage is a **** excuse, does not change the fact that floyd is far far far removed from the prime floyd at 140.. The one Cotto, Shane, and hatton Ducked .. Ducked !!! Flat out Ducked !!! when they were all champs in their respective weight class and floyd was a contender moving up from 135!

    Floyd lack of millage sure as hell has nothing to do with his competition but his skill level .. so your safety first bull **** is not even valid .. Cotto himself said himself at 140 and the early part of 147 he was no wear on floyd level .. Basically saying what everyone had been saying a long time ago.. Bob protected cotto from Floyd, then lied and said floyd was running from cotto.
     
  15. crimson

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    One thing to keep in mind is that because Cotto was more competitive with PBF than Pac, people would naturally assume that Cotto is better. If Pac's Cotto was more competitive, if he did not get TKO'd, knockdown twice in the early rounds, no doubt that Cotto would have been seen as better IMHO.

    Cotto taking more physical punishment with Pac, is that because it was a worse Cotto or just Pac's style?

    It is really Pac's style. He took more risks than PBF. PBF's best punch did not come until the 12th round. Pac's hit Cotto flush VERY early while Cotto was still moving quickly and had a strong snap to his jabs. From that point on he was on his backfoot. The first 3 rounds he fought like he did with PBF - forward with lead jabs, left and rights. But Pac countered and countered in force.

    So the assumption became, that Cotto is damage goods. It was not the weight, it was "styles makes fights." Even this Cotto, though at 147, would still get the same beating.


    So in the end, Pac's style and Cotto's punishment will cause people to perceive that PBF version was better when in fact PBF's style and the ability of Cotto to remain competitive with him made it very deceptive.