Who fought better against Valuev, Holyfield or Haye?

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  1. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    What! You going to claim Holyfield would murder Haye? If he wants some he can wait after John Ruiz gets his shot for the prestigious WBA World Title Belt.
     
  2. BizarroRJJ

    BizarroRJJ Active Member Full Member

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    Im actually very embarresed to admit this but... I actually want to see Ruiz fight Haye now to see what the hell is going to happen. I guess its kinda like wanting to smell how bad your own fart smells when your all alone.
     
  3. wingchung

    wingchung Active Member Full Member

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    holyfield. imagine what if evander fought valuev when he was 25.
     
  4. wingchung

    wingchung Active Member Full Member

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    wlad is the wba champ.
     
  5. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Holyfield certainly won more rounds. He actually ENGAGED Valuev. Haye ran.
     
  6. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    Actually the WBA didn't approve the bout. So, Klitschko didn't fight for the title. Haye has the belt.

    Haye watched the fight in person. He said it was terrible ( Klitschko vs Chagaev)
     
  7. wingchung

    wingchung Active Member Full Member

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    ruslan beat valuev for the title.
     
  8. Jnes

    Jnes Member Full Member

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    Two wrongs don't make a right. Even if it can be argued that Holyfield did better against Valuev, that doesn't mean Haye deserved to lose.
     
  9. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    The WBA gave the belt to Valuev because Chagaev wasn't medically cleared to fight. Valuev was the Champion and Haye beat him, end of story. :smoke
     
  10. wingchung

    wingchung Active Member Full Member

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    exactly. ruslan never lost it.
     
  11. BizarroRJJ

    BizarroRJJ Active Member Full Member

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    True True. Just going to be very interesting how they choreograph the script of keeping Haye a "champion" when he had such a poor showing against a not very good opponent and very questionable "champion". Should make for an interesing WWE type storyline in the division.
     
  12. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    Ruiz lost to Valuev, actually Holy did too (although he was robbed) so I guess we agree that Haye should have lost this fight...
     
  13. Norbix

    Norbix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah guys, let's not run and fight toe to toe with a 300 pound man.
     
  14. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    He's well past his best, but he's a living legend nonetheless;
    Dont ever apply the word chump to Evander Holyfield.:nono
     
  15. BizarroRJJ

    BizarroRJJ Active Member Full Member

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    When I say chump in refernce to Holy, its only pertaining to the old Holy that cant let go. Of course I recognize hes a HOFer but, hes got to let go of the dream hes going to become UNDISPUTED heavyweight champ again and take care of his health. After this debacle with Haye, he may very well become champ again of a belt, but its vs lesser opponents and not the best. He doesnt need to be fighting among this company and putting himself at risk for further health issues (brain damage). So thats where I was coming from with the chump comment. I recognize his former greatness, but what hes doing now is just silly.