Who gets more credit....manny or marquez

here mister, read it and find out how you tried to make this off as an equal and logical comparison. convenient for you, is it, when the clear answer is jmm at his current state defeating margo at his current state would make a great feat. you place them in situations no longer logical so can say pac doesn't get anything more credit than jmm does.

also, opinions, no matter how popular, do not count as facts, unless we have absolute proof that they happened. that is what the idiot was for.

 

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ok smartarse, it was a fact that marquez was slower at 145 than 135, yes? so it is pretty much a fact that he will be just as slow, if not slower, at 150!!!

this line of argument is boring!!! its petty and is just a form of trying to stay alive in a stupid argument you have already lost

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl tbh it is for either one. was trying to read stuff, and they hardly made sense. dead tired with work anyway.

 

i said earlier in the post it's close between the two. pac was great to watch how he handled a much bigger guy as was jmm and how he brilliantly worked on katsidis. it's close. and you moving that argument to another comparison that's not equal was something i did not agree on.

 

It's good to know that rationality wins in the poll here.

 

tough question... Kats looked to be every bit the no defense punch bag that Margo was.

 

Pac was expected to KO Margarito.
JMM was expected to have a hard tough fight who many thought he couldn't win.

Do the math Morons.

 

your disgraceful Mexican nuthuggery knows no bounds... so you're saying that more people expected Pac to actually knockout Margo than Marquez to win agains Kats? Log off...

 

Where you been?? Hiding under a rock???

I predicted Pac to KO Margarito around the 9th, and I was very worried about JMM vs Katsidis. I believe this was the general consensus.

Stop pretending you know boxing. :hi:

 

PAC vs Marg for sure. Marg is in every way more superior as a boxer than Katsidis. Throw in the fact that Marg was thoroughly dominated by PAC and JMM although winning handidly struggled at times with Katsidis. Overall BOTH were very good wins but PAC beating Marg has a lot more meaning.

 

So you bought into the 8th division conquered hype :rofl

Damn casual fans :-(

 

Nah brah.....Had PAC faced Katsidis all of the joy boys would be on the same tip they on now....which is finding anything and everything in all of PAC's accomplishments to discredit. Katsidis may be young, but he also lost to an OLD HEAD who was definitely on the decline in Casa a couple yrs back.

I can't see how anyone can honestly say that Kats was a bigger win than Marg at any weight.

 

Nah...the 8th world title is what it is. It's like Ray's 5th world title at a catch weight...it's nice for the resume and legacy but not his most meaningful win.

My focus is on the TWO opponents for JMM and PAC. Kats is NOT a great fighter and he's definitely BENEATH Marg in almost every measurable area in the sweet science. So therefore PAC's win has more meaning.

 

Actually.....Roach said that he "saw" Margs last two performance which was his foundation for claiming PAC would KO Marg inside of 9 rounds. He picked Marg b/c Manny requested the fight a few yrs back.