Who gives a prime Ali nightmares?

No Frazier, huh? I wouldn't favour Louis over him, and Holmes would be an interesting match-up. I'd say Lewis would give him trouble, and I think he beats Wlad. I think he also beats Rocky and about Jersey Joe, I don't know what to say.

 

Aside from who would have given him nightmares, it is his fight with Terrell that causes me to question how overall great he really was. Athletically he was superb but his boxing techniques as shown in that bout left a lot to be desired! I didn't recall Earnie landing much in the way of his jab on Ali but then he didn't throw much of anything due to his eye/vision problems he said were from Ali thumbing him in a clinch in the 1st round.

 

Beats him no one, gives him nightmares.
Dempsey
Lewis
Holmes
Louis

 

Dempsey only gives Ali nightmares in negotiations...

Lewis, Holmes, Marciano, Walcott, Charles (interesting to be sure), Tyson all give him big trouble and potentially hand Ali a loss.

 

Beats him :
Vitali
Valuev
Wladimir (whom is outside of my top 15 BTW)
Lewis
Bowe
Foreman
Tyson
Frazier
Norton


give him nightmares / possibly beat him :
Holmes
Haye
Fury
Pulev
Chuvalo
Doug Jones
Carl Williams
Tim Witherspoon
Henry Cooper
Tommy Morison
Michael Dokes
Michael Spinks
Holyfield
McCall
Tua (sink of e far more durable , far harder punching end far beter overol Oscar Bonavena)
Ruiz
Oquendo
Jimmy Young
Tony Tubbs
Chris Byrd
Corrie Sanders
Earnie Shavers
Ibeabuchi
Michael Dokes
Tony Thompson
Jameel McCline
Andrezj Golotta
Michael Grant
Lance Whitaker
Lou Savaresse
Tony Tucker
James Douglas
Mike White
Michael Moorer
Pinklon Thomas
James Tillis
Mitch Green
Jesse Fergusson
Orlin Norris
Bert Cooper
Larry Donald
Kirk Johnson
Oleg Maskaev
Hassim Rahman
Jeff Wooden
Tomasz Adamek
Eddie Chambers
Calvin Brock
Al Cole
Juan Carlos Gomez
Davarryl Williamson
Corey Sanders
David Price
Robert Helenius
Mariusz Wach
Duane Bobick




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Dempsey, Marciano, Tyson & I think a prime Ali beats them all but they give him hell.

 

Henry cooper knocked him down and would have knocked him out if angelo Dundee didn't cheat by using smelling salts witch if found out would have meant on the spot disqualification, also Dundee ripped ali's gloves to give them extra time. other wise Cooper would have knocked ali out cold, that's if ali could get off his seat without the smelling salts and extra time at the end of the round witch is very debateable if he could of got up looking at film of the bout.

oh and by the way that is fact that Dundee and ali cheated because Dundee admitted it in a television programme made just before Dundee died for alis 70 birthday celebrations.

 

The obvious effort that you've put into this list makes the 1960s/70s choices all the more baffling.

 

My boy Kenny Norton had Ali´s number. He proved time after time that he was the special one who could consistently defeat him with a clever strategy, systematically negating Ali´s assets and frustrating him.

 

Lennox Lewis his the height, boxing skills and wicked right hand along with some precision. Ali dancing on the outside with his hands down is a dangerous gamble. Ali was quick and he would have to be to beat Lewis. Ali doesn`t really have the one shot power to KO Lewis so he would have to find a way to outscore him.

In and out side to side. He could do it but it could be a rough night for Ali.

I think Larry Holmes gives Ali some problems with the jab and ring IQ. Walcott and his footwork and counterpunching.

 

Louis, Walcott and Marciano? Not the names one would expect. I request reasons.

 

Lewis might be trouble but I think Ali would beat him.
Lewis has size and an intelligent, simple style as well as power.
I don't think Louis does so much, he'd get touched up on the outside, wouldn't have the movement to find his way inside and possibly be stopped late.
Holmes would definitely give him problems, but like many others, I see Holmes as an inferior Ali...so that's kind of self explanatory.