Who gives a prime Ali nightmares?

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  1. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know, right? I mean...Wach? :lol: :rofl
     
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  2. Stevie G

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    Wee orl fink yor poasts r funy mait butt cood u tipe inn Inglish sew wee kan orl undurstand wot yor fukkin wel goein onn abowt !
     
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  3. Titan1

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    Greg Page
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    John Tate.
     
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  4. markclitheroe

    markclitheroe TyrellBiggsnumberonefan. Full Member

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    FRANKENFRANK..ey am afishly yar numbr won fan ayz rekon dat yu keep ya postins zackly da same az aye njoys tryin to diceifor them.
    Am glad ya respec ma main man Tyrell eez ad a bitta bad press but the boy done good hes akjally and ashpeli a gud muver wu wud av been a andful if eed kept eway frem da dopan kemikals.
    hofiously u not rayte dat Ali man an ya not himprest wid his karea..am wunderin did ya himashin dat Richard Dunn disurfed a remash ?
     
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  5. Anubis

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    1982 Holmes with Futch. Combining Larry's jab with Eddie's mind might be Ali's ultimate nightmare.
     
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  6. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime Ali too quick for Holmes.
     
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  7. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    simz laik u anderstend it wel , et list de sintex end de gremer
     
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  8. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    never wocht de Dunn fait. Hi woz krap eniwei . R u sajestin det hi dizervd 1 ?

    P.S. no rizen 2b imprest bay det smowk n mirorz show of organaizd craim of det Sicilian gangsta pulin dem stringz of dat ritardo dol of hiz
     
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  9. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was more impressed with Ali against Folley, to be honest. At no point did I say that Ali didn't win clearly on points. I still think Ali thumbed him and I have seen photos of him thumbing Liston!
     
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  10. mcvey

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    I think Ali carried Folley for a few rounds.
    Ali has never been accused of thumbing Liston,and in the wake of Liston's corner retirement his corner were casting around for any excuses they could find. If there was any question of thumbing I am sure they would have used it.
     
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  11. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My point about Ali's lack of power stands up because he didn't have the power to keep fighters like Norton and Frazier off him, so he isn't stopping Louis, Marciano or Holmes.

    Folley fought nothing like Walcott. Zora was a textbook fighter whereas Joe gave you more angles and hit hard with both hands. I haven't said he'd beat Ali, just I think he'd give him something different to solve.

    As to Joe Louis, the footwork comparison is interesting; could Ali move for 15 rounds against Louis? Who would lead and who would counter punch? Well, that depends on the fighters, but I can see Louis countering Ali's jab and vice versa. Futch got Norton to out jab Ali, though so I don't see it as a stretch to see Louis managing it.

    I honestly think Louis has a great chance of being Ali. He has the tools to do so; great jab, body punching, power in both hands, determination and finishing ability. In no way am I knocking Ali, I just don't think he is unbeatable like some claim.
     
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  12. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have seen a photo of him doing it! Ali could fight dirty like most great fighters.
     
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  13. HOUDINI

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    Neither Norton or Frazier ever fought prime Ali.
     
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  14. mcvey

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    My post addresses this I think.
     
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  15. Anubis

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    He should be, and I wouldn't want Giachetti in Larry's corner for that one. But Futch's strategizing would change the dynamic considerably, so that Holmes may come closer to decisioning 1966-1967 Ali than anybody else.
     
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