Who goes along with the following: that the majority of black Britons support Hatton

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by K2ray, Oct 31, 2007.


  1. Jimbo

    Jimbo Super Sharp Shooter Full Member

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    Hope you're aware that:

    1) Not all black people in the UK live in Brixton.
    2) There are black british ESB members in this thread.
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  2. K2ray

    K2ray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What you have just wrote has no relevance to my motion (Cmon, I know the UK is multicutural): do you or do you not agree with David UK's notion that the majority of black brits will support Hatton come December 9th. Yes or No?
     
  3. GazOC

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    No, the threads you started havn't just been about boxing politics in general they've been about black Brits supporting Mayweather and not Hatton. Thats a pretty narrow subject matter....

    I don't think mostt peoples individual opinion will wash or carry much weight with a lot of communities, black or otherwise. I do however think DavidUK is right and your agenda on ESB is just to attempt to convince American members that its not and that you are part of a down trodden underclass who will support a black boxer no matter what his nationality......otherwise you'd have posted this crap in the Britsh Forum and asked opinions there...:deal
     
  4. Strike

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    How on earth can I give percentages on something like that? It would be totally meaningless, much like your use of statements that you claim are "facts" when they are the complete antithesis of what constitutes a fact.

    Witter is not very well known in comparison to Hatton. Put it this way most English people supported Chris Eubank when he fought Joe Calzaghe who is a white Brit.
    Likewise when Naseem Hamed fought white British fighters like Paul Ingle (who won the world title from Junior Jones) most of the white crowd supported Hamed, because he was more famous and seen as a great.

    People from Ingles home town supported Ingle, like the people from Sunderland supported white Billy Hardy when he fought Hamed and pretty much every other white fan supported Hamed.

    How many white Brits do you think were supporting Jenson Button in the F1 racing this year as opposed to Lewis Hamilton? **** all.
     
  5. K2ray

    K2ray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1) True. Brixton is an example. The rule applies in all other black populated neighbourhoods in the UK
    2)Then let them post. These are the ones I want US ESB to hear.
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  6. Jimbo

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    Hatton has a huge regional fan base and his constant TV appearances and "down to earth" (media constructed or otherwise) personality mean that he is very well known so if Hatton met Witter he would have much more support than Witter who struggles to sell tickets. Is this because he is white? I wouldn't say so.

    Anyway, I think we all know that (unfortunately) Hatton and Witter will never meet.
     
  7. Strike

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    I think it will be split. There are the young chip on the shoulder black lads who will support PBF based on race, there are those who will support him due to his style and there are those who will support him due to the fact that he seems more into what they like ie hip-hop, bling bling etc.

    On the other side there will be lots of black fans who will support Hatton as a Brit and the non boxing fans who only watch the big fights will be very likely to support Hatton based on being British.

    I have no idea what the split will be.
     
  8. K2ray

    K2ray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well this is where all the action is (e.g. lively debates). Plus I never said boxing politics in general. I said an issue of boxing politics and one which goes far back as Muhammed Ali actually even further....and no cars are being burnt/shops being looted as a result of this thread so where's the agenda?
     
  9. Strike

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    You have heard some of them post and you ignored what they said or said that the black people in question obviously did not know all the facts.:patsch:lol:
     
  10. Jimbo

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    Just because they don't agree with you it doesn't mean they don't exist.
     
  11. Jimbo

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    The agenda is to represent yourself as speaking for black people in Britain re Hatton.
     
  12. K2ray

    K2ray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tha one dude said his uncle (didn't say if they were direct blood related)or someone is mixed, is that the ESB(s) you refer to?
    (If it is), Wow what a large number of Black UK ESB members that is:patsch
     
  13. K2ray

    K2ray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nah, to epresent the average black british boxing fan. Do you think I'm in the minority (when it comes to supporting PBF)...

    I don't like Hatton for many reason (e.g awful use of the science of boxing), but in particular his association with Manning and now Joey Barton has strengthened my dislike (not to mention Hatton Huggers continued depiction of him as a nice guy who can laugh at Bernard Manning's racist jokes)
     
  14. Strike

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    Try going back and reading what Scurla said, he is black and said he will support PBF due to styles but that you are way off in regards to your statements on race.

    Who knows more Black Brits, you or every British person on these boards?
     
  15. Jimbo

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    You are representing yourself as speaking for black people in Britain's view of Hatton, not just boxing fans.

    I don't like Manning either and don't like the whole "just cos he tells racist jokes doesn't mean he's a racist" argument, but I don't presume that Hatton is a racist. What those mentioned in the articles (Rooney, Flintoff, Manning & Barton) have in common is that they're celebrities in the Manchester area and Hatton will have met them this way. The list could also have included Micah Richards and Rio Ferdinand who have also done similar things (charity gigs, coming to his fights etc) with Hatton and if asked in an interview I'm sure he'd also refer to them as friends.

    The Barton-as-racist thing is pretty lame and tenuous in the extreme. I don't think anyone would disagree that he seems like a bit of a ****, but to use him as evidence of Hatton being racist is weak.