Who had a Better Lightweight(135) Career, Juan Manuel Marquez or Juan Diaz?

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    then put me in your ignore list...see soon buddy:hi:
     
  2. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Quote that post about me rating Hamed over Pac.

    Find it and quote that post. That is utter BS. Or better yet go make another poll.

    Point is 1 or 2 times doing something isn't a career. You're talking about head to head - Not someone's "career" - Two very different things.
     
  3. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And miss your next poll? What would I do for entertainment.

    Facts are facts.

    Besides, if I started using ignore on this forum there's would be like 5 threads for me to view total.

    Plus while I love ribbing Farm for his inability to split the Klitschko gene, he does post some decent posts on non Klit or Void related subject matters.
     
  4. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    good for you that you have sense of humor...hey pac only has 4 fights at 126 and by your definition cant call it a career, so you would rank hamed higher than pac in the all-time feather list...
     
  5. HyperBone

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    diaz, if youre talking about his reign as lw, technically has better career than jmm. cause of course everybody knows jmm went to lw at age 35 yrs. and he is not a natural lw

    but h2h, you know the answer....and i believe that jmm would have beaten the top fighters that jd had faced as a lw.
     
  6. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Asero, you're a good bloke and while I do rib you a bit, I like the passion of your fandom. I worked with a couple of Pinoy's with whom we enjoy many boxing debates and share in the joy of Manny's fights.

    Well going by your defnition of a "career" - Manny at 126 has four times the legacy of his 140lbs campaign!

    Generally speaking when I rank fighters at certain weights, it's based on achievement over a given length of time.

    For example, I wouldn't put Duran on a welterweight, Jnr Middle, Middle or Super Middle list.

    Lightweight I'd put him as one.

    Let me give YOU a poll question: What is Manny's prime weight class?
     
  7. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    how about in your lightweight ranking for the decade...Who ranks higher?
     
  8. HyperBone

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    probably diaz, cause jmm's prime weight class was at feather.

    it does not hold much bearing though, cause jmm beat him.
     
  9. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oohhh - That's a good question too now we're in 09.

    135lbser of the decade...

    The division certainly had fight of the decade with Corrales Castillo...
     
  10. asero

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    fair enough...maybe you would also rank darchinyan higher than donaire at 112 in the top 10 flyweights this decade...

    how about ranking joppy over trinidad at 160
     
  11. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i'll go with PBF despite having only 4 fights
     
  12. asero

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    126 pacquiao is a pre-prime pacquiao but had accomplished great in 126...easily top 20 all-time FW

    pacquiao's peak is right now so i'll go with 140 ability wise

    taking all into consideration i'll say 130. He would be remembered in that division. Easily top 5 in resume and ability

    pacquiao may not even be top 25 h2h at 126
     
  13. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has three more title defences than Tito of the belt he won.

    Joppy at middle - 34 wins 3 losses

    Tinidad - 3 wins 2 losses.
     
  14. asero

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    but trinidad demolished a prime joppy..

    trinidad over joppy at 160