Who had a better MW title reign: Hopkins or Golovkin?

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Better MW title reign

  1. Hopkins

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  2. GGG

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  1. kk17

    kk17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So you don't care if someone ducks his mandatory's to fight bum's instead or pay's the WBA to create a new belt for him ?
    During that time. Sturm even signed an assertion under oath that he won't fight Golovkin.

    You still call him the real champ as long as he has the WBA-Super-Mega-Only belt?
    Because of guys like you nearly every division has 3 WBA Champs now
     
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  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    The super belt was there long before Sturm.
     
  3. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    As someone who doesnt feel they know enough about Hopkins era to give an educated answer, this thread has been an interesting read.

    I dont know many fighters from the pre tito Hopkins era, but just on the surface I think he has the two best wins.... Trinidad, and Johnson.

    So seeing as how he has the record 20 defenses, and the two best defenses at that (imo), to me it seems I would favor Hopkins to have the better run.
     
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  4. kk17

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    I know Taylor had it before but from 2006 until Sturm bought it from the WBA in 2010 no one had that belt.
    Fact is still that Sturm paid the WBA to get that belt so he could avoid Golovkin
     
  5. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    True.
    And that legitimizes Golovkins belt? That ****ing interim belt that got elevated to the regular title. FFS, he was one of WBA´s 3 title holders.
    It's a **** situation and now they are milking it...
     
  6. Steve_Fox

    Steve_Fox Well-Known Member Full Member

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    resumes speak for themselves
    ggg has been dominating bumland
     
  7. kk17

    kk17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What Sturm did in 2010 was clearly ducking (at least in my opinion) and if you afraid to fight your mandatory you should be stripped of the belt . So for me Sturm should have been stripped in 2010 or 2011. That why I rate Golovkin as the only WBA champ since 2011.
     
  8. kk17

    kk17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins dominated bumland, Klitschko dominated bigbumland, Joshau will dominate bigbumland what's the point?
     
  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Here we go, making up ones own rules.
    It's as legitimate of a title run as what Eubank Jr is trying to pass with the IBO belt.
     
  10. ForemanJab

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  11. kk17

    kk17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Golovkin beat Derevyanchenko, Charlo, Saunders and Canelo before he retires it's even
     
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  12. The Akbar One

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    False. Golovkin doesn't have more solid scalps. People who weren't familiar with the middleweight scene back then look at boxrec and make those types of comments.
     
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  13. BCS8

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    Explain to me how badass Segundo Mercado was, then.
     
  14. The Akbar One

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    Golovkin would have probably got stopped in a 100 plus degree stadium at 9,300 feet in elevation. The Allen from the first two Hopkins fights would be a problem for Golovkin, and Jacobs. Echols would have destroyed Lemieux. Eastman was better than Murray. JDJ was better than Ouma, if you were familiar with the scene you wouldn't make such silly comments. Golovkin probably gets beat down by Trinidad.
     
  15. BCS8

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    No. Golovkin is a serious boxer who always comes in at the best shape he can and does high altitude training as a matter of course. Mercado would have been lucky to exit the 3rd.

    :lol: Allen's record is padded with utter bums. Aside from Hopkins he's got virtually nobody of note on it. He did of course manage to lose to guys like Ennabatti, Barbosa and Cooper who are noteworthy for being completely forgotten today. But yeah, HE is the guy to trouble Golovkin? :lol: I doubt that he'd trouble Macklin.

    32-22 Echols > 38-4 Lemieux, now? :rolleyes: You dksab, do you? Dude, Echols even lost to Mundine.

    No, I dispute that too. Murray had a hard road up and beat some decent fighters. He arguably won against Sturm, Martinez and Abraham - yes, the SAME Abraham who as a neophyte boxer comprehensively beat Eastman. Eastman was notable for padding his record with guys like 26-52 Ivory and losing to 5-0 Qwesi Jones. But if you had a clue you would know this.

    Need I go on?

    Hopkins' opponents with a couple of exceptions were unremarkable.

    If GGG fought Trinidad people would have been on at him for being a weight bully :deal:
     
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