Who had the best cardio or stamina in each weight class in boxing history?

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  1. ad4m88

    ad4m88 Active Member Full Member

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    Trainer Freddie Roach sparked some concerns earlier last week by admitting that Pacquiao had been suffering from cramps in his legs

    From a article in 2015 and the ugas loss he also blamed on leg cramps and another fight I can't remember who against he talked about leg cramps, apparently it happened because he kept playing basketball during camp or some bs like that
     
  2. lone star

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    Pryor at 140 thanks to Panama Lewis and his bottle that he mixed earlier.
     
  3. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    That's a difficult one to answer. Most of the guys who hold the records for most punches thrown in a fight were light slapping arm punchers. Monster punchers who could throw one hundred punches a round are a little rarer. Rocky Marciano comes to mind. Henry Armstrong was also a machine. I've seen a few buzz saws too who weren't otherwise particularly notable. Evander Holyfield had some nutty high punch output fights like his first one with Dwight Qawi. Matthew Saad Muhammad might deserve some praise in this regard at light heavyweight.
     
  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    Pacquiao would throw 1500 punches a fight. In his prime, he was definitely great for stamina and cardio. Wait, check that. He was in 1500 combined punch fights. Against Margarito he threw 1,069 and against Clottey he threw 1,231.
     
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  5. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    Carl Froch was better at super middle. He didn't have half of Calzaghe's skills but for durability and stamina he was without peer. Frequently, he would be badly losing fights and come on strong at the end when his opponents were exhausted from beating on him to knock them out.

    Another physical freak that leaps to mind is Freddie Mills who was the worst boxer I have ever seen but managed to make it to light heavyweight champion on muscle alone.

    You have to hand it to those guys who could fight for hours in the old days or go all out for fifteen rounds. Ali and Frazier might hold the record for most punches thrown in a heavyweight fight, although David Tua vs Ike Ibeabuchi is also up there.

    I think that Orlando Salido broke compubox records in his fight with Vargas at super featherweight.

    Jeff Fenech was a good call out. Ray Mancini perhaps at lightweight if not Roberto Duran. Aaron Pryor was well said for junior welterweight.

    The record was just broken this week by super featherweight William Zapeda who broke Efren Hinojosa's 21 year punch output record by throwing 1536 punches.

    Antonio Margarito was great for that at welter. Paul Williams at light middle. Ray Robinson at middleweight. Erik Morales at bantam had some bangers but he owed some of that to his great dance partners Pacquiao, Barrera, In-jin-Chi. I think that Leo Santa Cruz was throwing 80 punches a round around featherweight.

    Ray Oliveira set punch records at junior welterweight against Phillips and Padilla, but they were all arm punching slappers. I saw a guy back then once break his own punch record and lose his belt because he wasn't landing the cleaner harder punches.

    There were some guys who would throw and throw for fifteen rounds. Bobby Chacon at super featherweight, or Alexis Arguello. Salvador Sanchez, Jeff Fenech, and Danny Lopez at feather. Emile Griffith proved that his stamina was better than Benny Paret's at welterweight.

    Harry Greb is a good contender for middleweight.
     
  6. Dynamicpuncher

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    Heavyweight: Rocky Marciano, Joe Frazier, or if you want a modern sized Heavyweight Ike Ibeabuchi
    Cruiserweight: Evander Holyfield
    Light Heavyweight: Dwight Muhammad Qawi
    Super Middleweight: Joe Calzaghe
    Middleweight: Carlos Monzon, Harry Greb, Jake LaMotta, Frank The Animal Fletcher
    Jr Middleweight: No one really comes to mind except for Paul Williams
    Welterweight:
    Antonio Margarito, Carmen Basilio, Sugar Ray Robinson, Felix Trinidad, Manny Pacquiao, Paul Williams
    Jr Welterweight: Zack Padilla, Aaron Pryor, Ricky Hatton
    Lightweight: Roberto Duran, Henry Armstrong, Julio Cesar Chavez, Ray Mancini
    Super Featherweight: Bobby Chacon, Cornelius Boza Edwards, Brian Mitchell, Julio Cesar Chavez
    Featherweight: Salvador Sanchez, Henry Armstrong, Jeff Fenech
    Super Bantamweight: Jeff Fenech, Israel Vazquez, Daniel Ponce De Leon
    Bantamweight: Fighting Harada, Orlando Canizales
    Super Flyweight: Johnny Tapia, Wisaskil Wangsek, Juan Francisco Estrada, Roman Gonzalez

    And i'll stop there as it's harder the lower you go, because all the great little men threw a ton of punches.
     
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  7. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Froch wasn't fitter than Calzaghe.
     
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  8. Flo_Raiden

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    Eusebio Pedroza had an incredible stamina that rivaled with Salvador Sanchez and Jeff Fenech.
     
  9. ad4m88

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    Well Bradley threw 853 to Pacman's 751 in the first fight clearly Bradley had better stamina
     
  10. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    That's the real ***** of stamina, which I referred to earlier. Just because you can throw hundreds of punches doesn't mean that you can hit anything with them. Pacquiao threw 88 fewer punches but landed 94 more.
     
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  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    Pacquiao was 37 in 2015. His punch output by then was half of what it was and he was carrying injuries into the ring. We're talking about fighter's primes.
     
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  12. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    I seem to recall Gaspar Ortega being a busy kind of gentleman.
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  13. Flo_Raiden

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    Alexis Arguello, Felix Trinidad, and Juan Manuel Marquez were know to have great stamina as well.
     
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    2015 was 5 years past his prime.
     
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    pac man 8 different weight classes
     
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