Who had the best guard in history?

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  1. Ghostface923

    Ghostface923 Active Member Full Member

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    I was wondering because I recently took up some boxing classes and I have a particually bad guard. Which fighters could I look into who have a great guard?
     
  2. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My guess is that you are getting hit a lot? I will assume that you are just starting out as well? If this is true you are most likely getting hit because you're just starting out.
    There is no perfect style to copy. My experience which is limited to training for a smoker that got canceled :|:fire a few years ago, and taking a Muy Ti class tells me that the most important thing is to be comfortable.
    For me I'm most comfortable with a guard that is something of a cross between a philly shell and a muy ti guard. I personaly find that uncomfortable and therefore unsafe with the earmuff style that is very common. You may find that the opposite is true for you.
    You may also want to watch boxers who have great footwork and body movement. Even the best guard alone is not going to keep you from getting hit.
    My advise which is by no means expert advise is to keep boxing the more you do the more comfortable you will become. Your confidence will grow. You will find the style that works best for you. You will get hit less.
    As far as watching boxers goes. Watch as many as you can. As you start to understand your style you can see what is going to work for you.
     
  3. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My first piece of advice: Don't listen to anything Ripcity says.
     
  4. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    The Chicago Bulls.
     
  5. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    Being serious, go check out some Marlon Starling fights.
     
  6. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marlon Starling. Winky Wright. Ali when he did it.
     
  7. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The first name that came to my mind was Marlon Starling. There were times when he didn't bother worrying about throwing punches, just frustrating the hell out of the other guy who was. He'd just open up his gloves to extend his arms, cup his hands over the sides of his face, and taunt them with that silly little smirk of his.
     
  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    using a guard as a sheild. winky and starling are tops. a lot of older french boxers did something simular only they leaned further forward crouching into their peekabo guard. the wrap around criss cross arm effect used by archie moore was good also. gene fulmer (by no means defensive) hid his jaw in the crook of his left arm whilst pitching his right hand over the top less talked about since it was crude ...although effective.
     
  9. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Jack Johnson had the best blocking ability of all time
     
  10. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I agree but he leaned back, drew punches from his opponent and caught them in the air. its not stricktly a guard to sheild blows. he was most fond of catching the arms at both biceps with open 4 ounce gloves with a detached thumb which is obsolete now. from this clasp he would take turns releasing his grip of an arm to biff short single upercuts then regaining the hold as his opponents arm reached up in defence.
     
  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Anyone who adapted the St. Paul's school of fighting did not have a good gaurd(Tunney, Gibbons, H Matthews) all low hands. I prefer the higher gaurd with hands high, which fighters like Harold Johnson, Eddie Machen possessed.
     
  12. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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  13. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    archie moore derp
     
  14. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Young had a good guard.
     
  15. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    good point

    however his master blocking abilities wasnt strictly confined to catching the punches


    he also used his elbows shoulders and basically every part of the body he could to block



    and dont under estimate jacks intelligence

    give him a pair of modern gloves, and he would still be the greatest blocker ever


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    look at those gloves