Who had the better career in your opinion Mayweather or Pacquiao?

lahiredgun · Aug 17, 2023

Floyd has a better record and Manny had a better career.

Floyd lives in fear and Manny doesn’t.

BoxingWarrior · Aug 18, 2023

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I for one believe there's only 2 things perfect, that's god and Floyd Mayweather s record! I don't believe he waited for PAC to get old, he himself was older too. I see him as the better of the two p4p based on their fight and who won. BUT I think p4p of his era is different than atg status, which Manny ranks higher in! What's harder? Undefeated pro record or champion in 8 divisions? Losses don't mean ****, look at Roy Jones still is Superman. Lol, but seriously PAC took on all comers, and was the PEOPLE s champ!!! The most coveted position a boxer could possibly had: he gave back to the poor, inspired many, was there for natural disasters and politics. He also reduced the crime rate to 0% in Phillipines when he fought! What has Floyd done? Surrounded himself by bouncérs while dropping his kids off at school like a scared man! While Pacquiao invited lookers on to comfortably join in during his roadwork in the mountains! And urged them to watch his workouts!!! All the stars and nobodies were welcome in wildcard! How many vets showed up at money team gym? Moot point. Pacquiao garnered the hearts and love of many even Mosley, and Cotto confessed he was the goat. While Floyd is on his own level pound for pound for his generation/ modern times, PAC is historically compared to Henry Armstrong, the 4th best atg in history. At most Floyd can say he's too ten p4p why not? But Pacquiao ranks higher, and this goes well with the older fans as well. So I think Floyd was the better boxer, but Manny was the bigger person; the embodiment of a boxer/ fighter who went from rags to riches and never forgot anybody on his way up. My mind says Floyd but my heart says Pacquiao AND HIS HISTORIC RUN TO THE TOP will never be duplicated!!!
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BoxingWarrior · Aug 18, 2023

Mike_b said: ↑

I for one believe there's only 2 things perfect, that's god and Floyd Mayweather s record! I don't believe he waited for PAC to get old, he himself was older too. I see him as the better of the two p4p based on their fight and who won. BUT I think p4p of his era is different than atg status, which Manny ranks higher in! What's harder? Undefeated pro record or champion in 8 divisions? Losses don't mean ****, look at Roy Jones still is Superman. Lol, but seriously PAC took on all comers, and was the PEOPLE s champ!!! The most coveted position a boxer could possibly had: he gave back to the poor, inspired many, was there for natural disasters and politics. He also reduced the crime rate to 0% in Phillipines when he fought! What has Floyd done? Surrounded himself by bouncérs while dropping his kids off at school like a scared man! While Pacquiao invited lookers on to comfortably join in during his roadwork in the mountains! And urged them to watch his workouts!!! All the stars and nobodies were welcome in wildcard! How many vets showed up at money team gym? Moot point. Pacquiao garnered the hearts and love of many even Mosley, and Cotto confessed he was the goat. While Floyd is on his own level pound for pound for his generation/ modern times, PAC is historically compared to Henry Armstrong, the 4th best atg in history. At most Floyd can say he's too ten p4p why not? But Pacquiao ranks higher, and this goes well with the older fans as well. So I think Floyd was the better boxer, but Manny was the bigger person; the embodiment of a boxer/ fighter who went from rags to riches and never forgot anybody on his way up. My mind says Floyd but my heart says Pacquiao AND HIS HISTORIC RUN TO THE TOP will never be duplicated!!!
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He waited Pac to get old to lessen the risk and earn much
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Salty Dog · Aug 18, 2023

Imo, Pacman and it's not close.

H2H I'll take Floyd 9/10, but his career pales in comparison. Past a certain point, Floyd was overcautious in his matchmaking. He could have been greater. Maybe much more so.

Pacquiao never seemed to care much. He left it all in the ring.

MorvidusStyle · Aug 18, 2023

Pac had more courage, but possibly more PEDs.
Floyd liked his PEDs too but probably more for endurance.
Both enjoyed draining people but Floyd also liked to drag up smaller fighters.
Both fake nice guys.
Both unbelievably greedy and vice-ridden, but Pac gives some money away for a tax write-off and builds slum-lord properties he probably profits from because he's scared of going to hell after all the debauchery.

It's actually hard to split them.
And that's what makes the rivalry they avoided to protect their egos so damn intriguing.

Toney F*** U · Aug 18, 2023

Pac, but I am biased since I actually enjoy watching his fights.

Rumsfeld · Aug 18, 2023

Mike_b said: ↑

Great video Rumsfeld! I think you hit the nail on the head with that quote "stats don't mean everything." Btw who was the 17 year old boxing champion? I missed that... I like how you threw in the boxers from every generation, it was quite interesting! But to an aside, hopkins fought as high as light heavyweight, what woulda happened if he had moved to hw much like toney and Roy, to face big George Foreman at heavyweight? The Atg battle of grandpa's for the slice of the American dream pie!
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Thanks Mike, appreciate that. The 17 year old champion was Wilfred Benitez.

Personally, I don't think Hopkins had the build to be effective north of 175, especially at his age. Roy and Toney, to me they were better built to make the move. Although I think Hopkins was "toying" with the idea of challenging Haye at heavyweight, to which has trainer said something to the effect, "If you want to jump off a 2 story building, there's a CHANCE you can land without getting hurt. But I wouldn't want to take that chance."

And in terms of Hopkins and Big George, I seem to recall them having some minor slights against the other.

shadow111 · Aug 18, 2023

Rumsfeld said: ↑

Quasi-related.

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Will you be doing a preview video of Canelo vs Charlo? It would be interesting to get your thoughts on this Mega Fight.

Rumsfeld · Aug 18, 2023

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Will you be doing a preview video of Canelo vs Charlo? It would be interesting to get your thoughts on this Mega Fight.
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Yes. I already did the read last week.
Should have it finished probably before or around Tuesday. Trying to wrap my 1930s Survey video first.

shadow111 · Aug 18, 2023

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Yes. I already did the read last week.
Should have it finished probably before or around Tuesday. Trying to wrap my 1930s Survey video first.
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vast · Aug 18, 2023

Pac. Eight division champion

NoChin · Aug 18, 2023

Pacman for sure. How could a guy with that many losses including one to Floyd, who never lost, not be any better. Surely if you get knocked out that many times against a man that never lost nor got k.o'd, surely that would tell you who's better. Not to mention the superior ring resume.

Com'on man.

Fourth_Horseman · Aug 18, 2023

Mike_b said: ↑

I for one believe there's only 2 things perfect, that's god and Floyd Mayweather s record! I don't believe he waited for PAC to get old, he himself was older too. I see him as the better of the two p4p based on their fight and who won. BUT I think p4p of his era is different than atg status, which Manny ranks higher in! What's harder? Undefeated pro record or champion in 8 divisions? Losses don't mean ****, look at Roy Jones still is Superman. Lol, but seriously PAC took on all comers, and was the PEOPLE s champ!!! The most coveted position a boxer could possibly had: he gave back to the poor, inspired many, was there for natural disasters and politics. He also reduced the crime rate to 0% in Phillipines when he fought! What has Floyd done? Surrounded himself by bouncérs while dropping his kids off at school like a scared man! While Pacquiao invited lookers on to comfortably join in during his roadwork in the mountains! And urged them to watch his workouts!!! All the stars and nobodies were welcome in wildcard! How many vets showed up at money team gym? Moot point. Pacquiao garnered the hearts and love of many even Mosley, and Cotto confessed he was the goat. While Floyd is on his own level pound for pound for his generation/ modern times, PAC is historically compared to Henry Armstrong, the 4th best atg in history. At most Floyd can say he's too ten p4p why not? But Pacquiao ranks higher, and this goes well with the older fans as well. So I think Floyd was the better boxer, but Manny was the bigger person; the embodiment of a boxer/ fighter who went from rags to riches and never forgot anybody on his way up. My mind says Floyd but my heart says Pacquiao AND HIS HISTORIC RUN TO THE TOP will never be duplicated!!!
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Did Marciano lose to anyone ?

ElCyclon · Aug 18, 2023

This thread needs a poll.

turbotime · Aug 19, 2023

Mayweather made twice as much as Pac did in their fight........ Pac could've done way more if he wasn't on Arum's tit the entire time.

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