Who had the better Hook--Frazier or Cooney?

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  1. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Gents,

    I am just reviewing my "Holmes-Cooney" tape from 1982....... I love this fight of the 80s..... However, in round 10, Howard Cosell stated that 'Joe Bugner' made a remark that: "Frazier's left-hook could hurt you, but Cooney's hook goes right through you." C'mon, what the hell is that??

    NOW! I agree that Frazier had a better timed and planned hook shot than Cooney had, since Cooney was accused of telegraphing his hook shot, while Frazier let it go without warning....

    But the question is, is Cooney's hook more devastating than Frazier's hook shot in both men's peak yrs???
    :huh

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  2. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    George Foreman says their hooks dont scare him
     
  3. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What kills me is, Bugner never fought Cooney..... SO! How would he know what Cooney's hook / power was like? It doesn't add up........

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  4. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    haha, go big george. anyway, to the thread frazier all day, all day. heavier, more compact, threw it more often and with more variety, used it to break down bodies as well as jaws. cooney's maybe had more one punch power but that's it
     
  5. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly.
    More 1 punch power=Cooney left hook

    Better Left hook= Frazier


    That 1 punch power doesn't mean anything though because a champion will see it comming from a mile away, no variety with it either.
     
  6. DLSC

    DLSC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Smokin' Joe.
     
  7. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.
     
  8. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    In terms of effectiveness and variation. Clearly Frazier has the better hook. Cooney has more power, though.
     
  9. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree...... Shot 4 shot, Cooney packed a bigger wallop, but Frazier's hook was more precise / skilled...

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  10. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    for comparitive purposes i'd put cooney's hook in the same category as tua's: devasting as **** when he lands it but it's good for only one thing
     
  11. Rhino718

    Rhino718 M.O.B. Full Member

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    :good
     
  12. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree, folks.. Frazier's hook was better schooled, while Cooney's was more powerful in a "One" type of shot sense.....

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  13. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fraziers Hook was also almost his entire arsenal too.
     
  14. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Joe Frazier threw hooks like he was chopping his way through a rain forest with a machete.
    You can't compete with Joe for a hook.
     
  15. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True..... Cooney also owned a long pawing jab that was effective to a degree.... Frazier's jab sucked weenie........
    :admin

    MR.BILL:deal