Saw this poll on another platform and Foreman led considerably but it feels closer than that, despite how Foreman would win H2H the overwhelming majority of the time. Foreman: Brutalized an undefeated Frazier as well as Norton in 2 rounds, stopped most of his opponents but mostly unknowns aside from Chuvalo and Peralta Frazier: Essentially cleared the division against top contenders such as Ellis, Quarry, and Bonavena and has arguably the greatest win in HW history with the closest to peak and undefeated Ali. Some missing names but didn’t fight unknowns for the most part.
H2H vs each other, clearly Foreman by a distance. Against the field, its still Foreman, imo, albeit only very narrowly. Clearly there are fighters Frazier would do better against and vice versa.
Frazier,if you beat the nearest version of peak Ali,your name shall be remembered in heavyweight history.
That's a way of looking at it, at no time was Foreman ever "The man" he didn't clean out the division and he also doesn't have one of if not the greatest win in HW history as his "finish line" Quarry, Ellis, Mathis, Foster, Zyglewicz Ramos, Bonavena and Muhammad Ali (Coming off 2 hard camps) that's relly good work for a short period.
I feel like Frazier had a better resume at his peak but Foreman was way way more dominant at his peak completely destroying anyone in his way so I'd probably lean more towards Foreman.
Frazier beat Ali. George can beat everyone under Ali and still not match that. George beats Joe 9 times out of 10 but Frazier was the man who beat THE MAN.
Prime being different than peak, for me, Foreman's peak was two fights long, Frazier and Norton. He was a great heavyweight but not a great champion. Frazier was on top for far longer and capped it off by beating Ali. Frazier is the answer to this one.
He was “a guy” a really good contender who beat a Frazier who was touring around with a band and disinterested post FOTC (I think they were milking the title because they could smell the end was near) and Norton (who is pretty good but lacks confidence)… and then he lost to Ali and Young that’s all he really was - I don’t think you can compare that to being “THE MAN” ya know? JF was at one time the best HW in the world, beat the greatest HW ever (by majority vote anyway) he went through the division like no one after him till Mike Tyson but like Tyson the high life, alcohol and a short lived youthful style did him in.
Tell us all what’s upsetting you now Swaggy the grand total of @JohnThomas1 and @Pugguy is eagerly waiting to hear how differing boxing opinions make you mad again.
H2H, stylistic matchup always favors Foreman ... length goes to Frazier from 68 - 72 beat1ing a very diverse quality of fighters ..
Wee man, why are you calling out to me again?……it’s clear that you take issue with the views of a number of Classic members….you little projector, you.