Who had the better resume? Sanchez or Chavez?

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  1. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm sorry, but J.C. Chavez fought insane competition up until he was parked by Tszyu in 2000.... Chavez has a radical resume......

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  2. Titan1

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    chavez
     
  5. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I disagree. I'd say comparing just the two lists above, Sanchez has a clear edge.

    Nelson and Gomez are certified ATGs - I don't think the same could be said for any of Chavez's victims. In fact, I question whether Taylor, Rosario, or Camacho should even be considered genuinely great, let alone ATG. And even considering that Camacho may likely make the HOF someday, Sanchez's list here still shows more wins against HOFers.
     
  6. Flea Man

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    I think if you take all things into account though (Nelson not quite being there but obviously still ace and Gomez not being the same force above super bantam) then it's closer.
     
  7. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    I don't even think it is close. Sanchez has some great wins, but Chavez has top wins for 2 decades.
     
  8. TAC602

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    Taylor could've been. He also didn't deserve that ****.

    His prime was over and he was damaged goods For Life after that and while it speaks to the brutality of Chavez's fists, the least he deserved was to hear the bell and receive the victory he earned in the ring.
     
  9. Flea Man

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    Um, he got stopped. A fight is 36 minutes. I would say Chavez, after being outscored for most of the fight, deserved to receive a stoppage victory for working hard throughout the 12.

    Taylor earned a healthy lead only
     
  10. My2Sense

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    But if you take that into account, then you also have to consider the fact that Camacho had been considered past his prime for some time, Rosario had already been "exposed" somewhat by Ramirez, and even Taylor was still considered a slight bit raw and green when he fought Chavez.


    Taylor had other limitations that inhibited him from becoming great - i.e: his leaky defense, his penchant for slugging, his weight difficulties, and possibly, a certain lack of power at the elite level. It wasn't just simply the loss to Chavez that ultimately derailed him.

    Nelson received even worse punishment from Sanchez fighting all the way into the 15th round - just look at his jaw after the fight - but his greatness was such that even a ferocious beating as that couldn't keep his true quality from coming to the surface.

    Aye, but if that had happened, we wouldn't be talking about him as a victory for Chavez, either. :good
     
  11. Flea Man

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  13. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Camacho is matched up against Cowdell, who isn't fit to hold a prime Camacho's gym bag. So no one's doing Chavez a favour in comparison's there. He's matched up with Cowdell because it is assumed that it's not a prime Camacho that Chavez beat.

    Regarding Rosario being exposed, you could just as well argue that Gomez got exposed for not being that good at featherweight. I certainly wouldn't put that down as one of the best ever showings by Gomez. Quite the opposite really. Of course Sal had something to do with that.

    As for Taylor, if he was raw there, then he remained raw. That was the best performance of his career, and imo, one of the best performances of all time. He had already shown by whipping McGirt's ass that he was a serious fighter.

    Sure, he may have had weaknesses that prevented him from becoming an ATG, but imo, the Nelson that Sanchez beat was not harder to beat than the Taylor that Chavez beat, all things considered.

    We're also not considering here that Taylor was the naturally bigger guy than Chavez, something Sanchez didn't have to worry about in facing Nelson.
     
  14. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Guys like Lockridge and Ramirez could easily get into the HOF if they had the right bandwagon.

    Re: GOmez and Nelson, I've discussed that above.
     
  15. Flea Man

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    More good points.