Who had the better resume when undefeated? Brian Nielsen or Deontay Wilder

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Admittedly it was iron Mike later in his career but Nielsen gave a good account of himself against him and proved to be very tough
     
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    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Which wins of wilders do you feel stand above?
     
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    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Please elaborate further
     
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    On paper Nielsen in reality Wilder. Nielsen beat up a bunch of old men and probably should have lost to a 47 year old Holmes. Wilder's competition wasn't great but there were all game opponents and he knocked them all out without any controversy. So I'll go with Wilder.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thank you for the kind words but the honour is mutual, Bailey. Brit Level aka Elite of the elite posters are few and far between so it's always a joy to receive recognition from a fellow one
     
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  6. Serge

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    Indeed
     
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  7. Serge

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    Neilsen's resume is clearly superior. Whilst some of his scalps might have been on the downside pretty much none of The Dosser's ever had an up side. They were all useless dossers

    If Nelisen had the PBC/Showtime smoke and mirrors hype machine behind him to dupe the casuals into believing the hype he would've been the next big thing too
     
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    Brian Nielsen's career should be compared to someone like Johann Duhaupas if Duhaupas managed to beat Klitschko, Liakhovic, and Brewster when they were all in their 40s and way past their prime.

    He deserves some respect but he never challenged for a belt, almost never left Denmark, and never fought a top fighter in his prime. If you look at this career with no context it looks impressive at 64-3 with wins over Holmes, Witherspoon, De Leon, and Tubbs. Also fighting Holyfield and Tyson. Unfortunately, context matters and most of these guys were way older/past it, or he got smoked.
     
  9. The Professor

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    Nielson. Yes, some of them were past it, but at least they were live bodies, unlike the vast majority of the stiffs Wilder's record is littered with.
     
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  10. bailey

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    Who do you feel Wilder beat that was so much better?
     
  11. bailey

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    Nelson beat Purrity who would go on to beat undefeated Wladimir Klitschko
     
  12. bailey

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    That is interesting
    Many of the wins Nielsen had over big name fighters were still active and competitive
     
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    After Nielsen beat Puritty, Puritty held Morrison to a draw and later beat W Klitschko.
    Morrison after this draw fought L Lewis some fights after
     
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  14. bailey

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    When Nielsen beat Holmes, Holmes didn't lose again and won his next 4 fights
    The age of Holmes at that time was not too dissimilar to the age of Ortiz today
     
  15. Dynamicpuncher

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    Except you're missing some context.

    Holmes had been a professional since 1973 so that's 24 year gap from when he fought Nielen in 1997, fighting 25 world title fights, with over 70 professional fights.

    So in comparison Ortiz had been a pro since 2010-2024 so that's a decade less than Holmes, Ortiz had only fought in 2 world title fights, had half the amount of professional fights that Holmes had.

    So it's safe to say Holmes had way more wear and tear due to the superior opposition he was facing aswell as having a much tougher professional career with way more fights.

    This is why you can't compare ages of fighters every career is different.

    Plus as i said most people consider the Holmes/Nielsen fight to be a bad decision i had it 8-4 for Holmes aswell. So that's not a plus in Nielsen's book getting a gift decision against a totally shot almost 50 year old Holmes.

    Also it makes you wonder how legit some of Nielsen's fights were after reading this.

    Match throwing incident
    Controversy arose in early 2004, when journeyman heavyweight Thomas Williams stated that he had been bribed to throw his fight against Nielsen in March, 2000. Along with promoter Robert Mitchell, Williams was indicted by the United States District Court for the District of Nevada for match fixing in order to promote the career of Richie Melito, and it was during the FBI's investigation of that case that Williams admitted to intentionally losing to Nielsen. The fix was arranged by promoter Robert Mittleman, a frequent associate of Nielsen's promoter Mogens Palle, who later confessed that he had been paid $1,000, while Williams had received "up to $40,000" from Palle in order to lose the fight. Williams, Mitchell and Mittleman were all found guilty of sports bribery by the court in November and December, 2004.
     
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