Who had the Harder style to overcome.. Pea or PBF

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  1. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Let's break it down.

    It's probably as even as it gets... Whitaker lost to Ramirez which is probably compatible to Jesus chavez.

    JCC is comparable to JLC, in a way, though many will disagree.

    McGirt is probably on a Pac Level.. maybe..
    Paez.... Chicanito type...
    Floyd accomplished more, though Sweet pea is probably the more gifted fighter.
     
  2. jaymon112

    jaymon112 MARVELOUS Full Member

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    What really shocked me was just how fast Floyd was still at 38 against Pacquiao. You see the speed in the Bradley bouts and would think it was comparable but he was made to look slow in his fight against Floyd.
     
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  3. Thread Stealer

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    http://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/floyd-mayweather-vs-pernell-whitaker.537170/

    I'm going with Whitaker as I feel he was better by a slight margin at their peaks. I pick Pea slightly H2H and there's nothing about Mayweather that makes me think that his style would make it more difficult for opponents than how difficult Whitaker would be.

    The number of guys I'd pick to beat Floyd from 130-140 is pretty small and even smaller for Whitaker at those weights (or 135-140 as he didn't fight at 130).

     
  4. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Castill, Cotto,Maidana ... did not win in rounds , huh?
     
  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Both were exceptional fighters, the best of their ages .. Whitaker did not lose a fight till he was old against welterweight powerhouses like Oscar and Tito .. the Ramirez fight was a joke. The same w the Chavez draw. Floyd maintained his top form longer, more disciplined long term. Very, very close.
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Whitaker was done at the age Floyd was when he was beating Cotto and Maidana. He was dropping more rounds than Floyd dropped to either Cotto or Maidana when he fought Hurtado at age 33.

    Castillo did win some rounds. He rightfully lost each fight though.
     
  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Comparing Paez and Chico is insane.
     
  8. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just do see the May was more durable or more mentally strong... those are a bit perplexing to me. I also dont' see him as faster.
     
  9. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Chicanito, not chico.. But Paez was pretty damn good too.
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    My mistake, not so insane in that case.
     
  11. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tough call.

    If we're splitting hairs, I do think Pea's clowning cost him at times and that he left unanswered countering opportunities on the table that Floyd wouldn't have. As such, beating Floyd may have been a little tougher even though a Sweet Pea highlight reel would likely be more jaw-dropping.
     
  12. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes they won rounds, Floyd didn't give them away.

    Whitaker often gave rounds away.
     
  13. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know how that helps your case though. Floyd is trying and unable to stop people from winning rounds. Pea, while not trying, gives some rounds away. It actually hurts your argument more than it helps it.
     
  14. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah but Whitaker actually lost rounds he was trying to win too(R.Mayweather, DLH, Rivera). Whitaker was actually dominated at times against them something thats never once happened to Floyd

    Whitaker actually gave away enough rounds vs Ramirez to lose the fight which shows a lack of fight IQ. He also made fights against Paez, Pineda and Nelson close by giving rounds away heck if Mills Lane had called Whitaker on his all his fouls he would of lost the fight vs Nelson too
     
  15. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    durable i totally agree with you, pea is far more proven there.

    mentally strong i also agree but would say floyd does have an advantage in terms of seeing and executing what he needs to do to win the fight.

    I think floyd was faster tho, and i don't think it's particularly close. Pea was faster than the average fighter but floyd is amongst the all time elite in that category.