Who had the higher ring IQ, Bernard Hopkins or Floyd Mayweather Jr?

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  1. Ironfox222

    Ironfox222 New Member Full Member

    Feb 20, 2022
    who do you think had the higher ring IQ in their prime, Hopkins or Mayweather?
  2. Snails

    Snails Active Member Full Member

    May 26, 2021
  3. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

    Jan 18, 2010
    I'd say B-Hop when it comes to prime.
    I think most answers will be Floyd because B-Hop became much more of a spoiler later in his career, which is called 'crafty', but doesn't require much ring IQ. It just stands or falls with what the referee lets you get away with.
    Though his style earlier in his career tels you he can really read an opponent and act appropriately.
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  4. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

    Mar 1, 2010
    I personally think Floyd would have disarmed a fighter like Chad Dawson but B-Hop’s age probably played a huge factor in that..
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  5. turbotime

    turbotime Future Hall Of Famer Full Member

    May 4, 2012
    Different stages IMO
    Hopkins aged better in comparison but that was due to Floyd's muscle deficiency which didn't really let him pop off that much. Also consider Floyd was boxing at a high level as a teen which also takes it's toll.
  6. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

    Jun 10, 2012
    This is hard to answer.. I don’t think Floyd has higher iq, at least it is debatable.. Floyd definitely is more talented and athletic.
  7. Boon

    Boon Boxing Addict Full Member

    May 2, 2015
    Either way, both had ring IQs of a PhD calibre.
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 4, 2005
    I think it's a difficult question to answer and you could make an argument for both.

    While I think Floyd overcame more styles he was blessed with greater athleticism to allow that and didn't fight so far past his prime like BHop to get to see him need to overcome the same kind of obstacles Hopkins had to.

    Either way both had tremendous ring IQ's.
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  9. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Active Member Full Member

    Nov 6, 2017
    Floyd. Floyd was much better at making adjustments and he could fight at different ranges. I've always felt that bhop was overrated due to the fact his resume is underwhelming
  10. JOKER

    JOKER CEO of the LDBWC Club Full Member

    Dec 18, 2019
    Both were on gargantuan loads of PEDs.
  11. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

    Dec 6, 2008
    Tough question. Floyd’s insane reflexes make it difficult to tell just how much of it was intelligence and how much it was just his reflexes.
  12. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. Full Member

    Jul 22, 2019
  13. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 8, 2013
    Floyd. But, Bernard might have been better at dirty fighting and whining.
  14. panchman69

    panchman69 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 10, 2012
    Floyd had the better physical talent so he could doo alot more in terms of setting up counters, hopkins was more limited physicslly. Its a tough call. Also terence crawford is in the same class as these 2 in terms of ring iq.
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  15. Guerra

    Guerra Active Member Full Member

    May 23, 2020
    I say Hopkins cause Floyd was better physically.

    Hopkins had to rely on his wits more. Especially when he got older. But him schooling guys unexpectedly priced his great ring IQ imo.
    He put clinics on tito and pavlik. Him becoming the oldest champ vs Pascal also shows he was running soly on his ring iq back then.
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