Who has a better chance at outboxing Larry Holmes, Oleksandr Usyk or Wladimir Klitschko

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, May 15, 2025.


Who wins ?

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  1. Klitschko

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  2. Usyk

    80.4%
  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk. Even the overrated Holmes would beat Wlad.
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wladimir has a dangerous KO right hand which Holmes could be suspect to.

    Usyk is a master at slipping the jab although Holmes does have a good uppercut which Usyk can be vulnerable to.

    I think both are equally challenging opponents for Holmes in different ways.

    And for the people bringing up Spinks....Holmes was fighting his 21st championship fight in 7 years and was considerably past his best by that time with some extra timber around the mid section.

    So let's not be silly an try and pretend the Holmes of 1977-1982 is the same version of Holmes in 1986 vs Spinks. Common sense will tell you looking at the footage that Holmes had lost a considerable amount of sharpness, speed, and no longer had his mobility he once had.
     
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  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So you're telling me a 36 year old Fury, Chisora, Joshua, can win 4 rounds maybe 5 in Fury's case vs Usyk.

    But an ATG Holmes who ranks way higher than either of those fighters wouldn't win a round ?

    Are you trolling ?
     
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  4. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holmes gets stopped by both because he's massively overhyped.

    Tyson utterly wrecked him when he was Usyk's age. Usyk just beat Fury twice. Holmes was clueless against Tyson and went down like a sack of potatoes. Did he even land a punch? Wlad had a competitive fight with AJ at 41 and took way more punishment.

    Wlad would UTTERLY destroy Holmes. Holmes wouldn't do anything. Land some jabs? Oh no! Wlad would land bombs and explode his head.

    Usyk would take some time but basically grind him down and TKO him. There's nothing Holmes could do to Usyk. Literally what could he do? Dance around with his high socks and throw some non-concussive punches?

    People here are utterly deluded.
     
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  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its funny because no one is a bigger critic of Holmes than me but I just don't see what Wlad accomplished and who he beat to support the narrative that he would dominate Larry. To me Larry is MAYBE towards the bottom end of top ten, and Wlad is just outside it.
     
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  6. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Holmes beats them both.
    Usyk has the better chance. Between Usyk and Wlad, Usyk is more adaptable and has a high ring IQ. Wlad is excellent at what he does but is not a top tier thinker in the ring.
     
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  7. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I think its fair to say different fighters age differently.

    Holmes was an old 38. He had been away for 2 and a half years. He had defended his title 20 times prior to that and had had 50 fights.

    There is a reason why most modern fighters don't fight 3 times a year like Holmes did. It reduces your longevity.

    Usyk does not hit as hard as Tyson and does not have the same punching variety. Usyk has a very good underrated straight left hand. Tyson had a much better lead hook, more powerful backhand, more powerful uppercuts, quicker hands and threw faster and harder combinations. Tyson-Holmes has no relevance to Usyk-Holmes.
     
  8. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spinks didn't fight the prime version of Holmes tho and he lost the second fight.
     
  9. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    100%
     
  10. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's also because of money they get paid in fights and all the contract agreements. The last heavyweight to really fight that type of activity was Wlad and Canelo is pretty much like the last breed who is still around now.
     
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  11. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Dominated his opposition and best opponents while Holmes struggled with his mainly
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The self-righteousness of the boxing nostalgists and paleontologists is completely unparalleled and is utterly nauseating. So certain they're right and that their opinions are superior to everyone who disagrees with them whilst simultaneously never being able to prove it :lol:

    They don't even attempt to be remotely fair. They're right and they know better and that's that
     
  13. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Neither of them beats Larry Holmes, a fight with Wlad would end when Larry steps in and nails him with a straight right about mid fight. Usyk is a better boxer but Larry's jab would control the fight to a UD because I don't see Usyk pressing Larry Holmes, he ain't got the juice to get in a fight with Holmes
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Does Holmes have that kind of power? Klitschko only got dropped by big punchers
     
  15. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    The same guy who gassed against Weaver and had to take rounds off in most of his major fights? But somehow Usyk who never takes rounds off and has never gassed doesn't have the "juice"? Seems like you're talking about some made up fighter.