Who has a better chance in their rematch: Canelo or Kambosos

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  1. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Canelo were to rematch Bivol & Kambosos were to rematch Haney, who would you give the better chance of winning the rematch (not saying that they would win) just the better chance?
     
  2. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Canelo but I think they both lose, Canelo lands a flush uppercut its game on.

    Bivol too big for Canelo and Haney too skilled for Kambosos.
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    George has no chance unless he develops an active high guard to block Haney's jabs. He was a sitting duck all night for that jab, it was hard to watch.
     
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  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both will lose but Kambosos has a better chance, because unlike Canelo, Kambosos isn't fighting a god

    You cannot compare Canelo to Bivol. They're worlds apart. He cannot beat Bivol under any circumstances. Bivol was at 20% and still dominated him.

    If Bivol entered his second gear he'd be on a completely different universe of skill and boxing IQ to Alverez and would trash him in 5 seconds. Theres no way he can win the rematch. He should just abandon ship and never think about fighting at Light Heavyweight ever again. Bivol is a straight up monster in the IQ department. I love watching his fights
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agree that Bivol is far better than Haney, but Canelo did have some early success against Bivol before gassing pretty hard. Canelo was ahead after 10 rounds after a good round 9. You might disagree with that score but to say Canelo cannot beat Bivol under any circumstances is not being realistic. Canelo despite gassing hard came very close to winning, if he paces himself better and tightens up his defense he could do it, but it won't be easy against Bivol. He has to be better than he was, but I would never count Canelo out especially coming off a loss and with a lot to prove.

    Bivol is a far more well rounded fighter than Haney and more difficult to beat. Haney has a good jab but showed he was vulnerable in the 9th when he was sent down from that body shot. Bivol has better punch resistance than Haney, has tighter defense than Haney. Haney just has a great rangy jab. Bivol was a great jab to but Haney's is better. But everything else besides the jab Bivol is better.

    Lets put it this way, as better as Bivol is than Haney, Canelo is far better than George so even though Bivol is tougher to beat, Canelo is far more capable of giving Bivol a run for his money, at least on the cards, so I would be less surprised by Canelo beating Bivol in the rematch because he's a great fighter than if George somehow beat Haney. But I think for George, his only real chance is hurting Haney again like he did in the 9th and trying to get him out of there which is possible, whereas Canelo is going to have a much harder time stopping Bivol.

    Canelo could win a decision on Bivol if he doesn't gas, which he was on his way to doing because he has far better defense than George, allowing him to edge rounds with well placed power shots. George had some well placed power shots but he was being peppered with stiff jabs far more than Canelo was vs Bivol, making it harder to win rounds if you are getting hit clean as much as George was. If you defend well, as Canelo did against Bivol, then a couple of big power shots can win you rounds, when you don't defend well, like George against Haney, then you shouldn't be able to win rounds even with a couple of big power shots as George did in some of the rounds, even though 2 judges apparently gave him some of those kinds of rounds.
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo has almost no chance against Bivol. But he does have a robbery chance
     
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  7. kirk

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    Both will lose in the rematch but odds wise I think Kamb has a better chance.
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What you call a robbery chance is just the fact that Canelo defends well, so Bivol wasn't able to land many clean shots, which allows Canelo to win rounds with some big eye catching power shots. George doesn't defend as well as Canelo, isn't as elusive, and isn't as dynamic of a power puncher as Canelo. On the other hand, Bivol has better punch resistance than Haney, so George's only real chance is hurting Haney with a lucky punch, whereas Canelo has a realistic chance to win a decision on Bivol. Which you would naturally call a robbery, but in reality is just because of how well Canelo defends and how impressive his power shots are.
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo has a better chance to win a decision (legitimately). But George I think has a better chance of hurting and possibly stopping Haney.
     
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    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You say because of the judges but you know damn well Canelo defends better than George, Bivol was unable to land enough clean shots on Canelo in the rounds that Canelo won, and Canelo landed the better harder more effective shots. It's no secret why Canelo wins rounds. You have to be able to defend well and prevent your opponent from landing clean effective shots, as Canelo does, to be able to "steal" rounds with well placed power shots while throwing less punches.
     
  12. drenlou

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    Neither have a chance. Both were soundly beat and theres nothing i see from both performances that will make me think they can make the proper adjustments to win.
     
  13. shadow111

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    What if Canelo doesn't gas? He was ahead after 10 rounds. He fights like he did in rounds 1-4 & round 9 for a couple more rounds, he wins. George on the other hand doesn't have the skills to compete with Haney on a RBR basis but he does have the ability to drop and hurt Haney as he showed in round 9. So Haney is more vulnerable to be hurt than Bivol, but he beat Kambosos far more convincingly on the cards than Bivol did against Canelo.
     
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  14. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah...Canelo was nowhere near close winning only the corrupt judges and your demented self think that...
    Don't even attempt to appeal to authority as that is a fallacy and we both know that.
     
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  15. drenlou

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    I dont see it bro. Cmon you know me on here, im one of Canelos biggest fans but i just cant see Canelo having what it takes to beat that Russian style.
     
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