Who has a better chance in their rematch: Canelo or Kambosos

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Isn't that what you're doing to me trying to bait me into a discussion about arm punches? Then when I respond to your bringing up arm punches, you bail. Make up your mind, have a discussion about it or not, but none of your points about arm punches offset you being wrong about shoulder shots. And the fact is that I did clearly state that forearms and elbows can block, I didn't specifically say that arm punches should always be scored. I said it depends on whether they were used to block or not. You are being dishonest by making it seem like I want to count all kinds of arm shots. You know that's a fabrication. Did I state that "some" arm shots could possibly be scored? Sure, and that's consistent with what the rules state about non-shoulder arm shots "mostly" being considered for blocking but not "always". It depends on the situation, namely is the part of the arm that got hit being used to block. This point seems to be lost on you.
     
  2. shadow111

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    He has 2 more fights in a 3-fight deal with DAZN. So GGG and if he wins, either Ryder or Parker most likely. Parker is his WBO mandatory, I think he has to fight him within 18 months from the Plant win. So by May 2023 most likely he would need to fight Parker.
     
  3. shadow111

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    Right, it's a double edged sword, but he also could improve his conditioning overall and how he prepares for another fight at 175 if that's where he'll fight Bivol at. He could pace himself better by working behind the jab more. I think if he worked behind the jab more he could win some early rounds and sitll hav more in the tank in the later rounds. He doesn't need to punch himself out in the early rounds next time, there are other strategies that can work, like more jabbing early, more jabs to the body.
    I think going back to 168 will help his stamina issus, the problem is if he moves up again to fight Bivol, he shouldn't put on as much weight. He should weigh in closer to 168 than to 175 next time, even if he is fighting at 175. And he needs to get off that vegan diet. Eating meat helps his stamina and conditioning.
     
  4. theanatolian

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    If the question is who has a better chance at deserving to win, the answer is more or less even. Both have slim chances, but considering Canelo was one flurry away from getting a draw in a fight he came close to being outclassed, he has a better chance at getting a decision.
     
  5. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo but not by much.
     
  6. Manfred

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    No way in hell were the cards stacked in Haney's favor.
     
  7. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kambosos has a plausible chance of beating Haney in a rematch - though I wouldn't pick to win it.

    Canelo has almost zilch chance of beating Bivol at 174 lbs. Bivol is an extremely skilled fighter and a natural LWH. No disrespect to Canelo but he can't 174 lbs for 12 rounds and stay comeptitive with that kind of fighter and has virtually no chance of clipping him.
     
  8. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Bivol in reality wins by by 6 points, they will give it to Canelo.
     
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  9. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can't believe you just posted that Canelo was ahead after 9 rounds vs Bivol. The bad judging in these fights has enabled fans to come up with preposterous revisionist stories.
     
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  10. m.s.

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    I didn't read this whole post, but if shoulder shots are scored then Floyd should have about 20 losses, and we need to go back in time a change about 1,000 fight results.
     
  11. FastSmith7

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    Canelo landed 5x fewer flashy shots
     
  12. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    LOL Canelo was never ahead. Stop with this revisionist history. The fight was a blow out. Not even close. The only reason Canelo fan boys are saying this is because the judges gave the 1st 4 round to Canelo. Which any objective viewer knows just wasn't true. If they had scored it properly, giving 1 maybe 2 of the 1st 4 rounds to CA, this BS about the fight being close wouldn't have ever come into existance. Canelo was outlanded in damn near every round in both jabs and power shots. And here you are saying the fight was close? C'mon man stop, man up and just admit, Canelo lost big.
     
  13. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's just shadow being a weasel..he was trying to count arm punches and shoulder as being scoring shots. we found out that shoulder punches could be counted.
    So now shadow conflates a shoulder shot to now include the bicep. so now will state bicep/shoulder as the same thing.
    I've come to the conclusion that he had had head trauma to explain his demented and deluded behaviour.
     
  14. shadow111

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    Revisionist stories? Those were the official scores. The Revisionists are those who deny how close it was by claiming Bivol won nearly every round. That's just not factual.
     
  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Shoulder shots are scored, no IF about it.