Who has a better chance in their rematch: Canelo or Kambosos

A weasel? Because I count shoulder/bicep shots? You make me laugh.

The shot at the end of round 1 that I counted hit the shoulder. Therefore it can be scored, you argued it couldn't be scored. The bicep is connected to the shoulder, so saying it hit the bicep doesn't negate it hitting the shoulder. I cant believe I have to explain this to you, but you're a stubborn one aren't you. As far as arm punches are concerned, the rules state "In most cases the arms are considered defensive weapons."

That did not say in all cases. By stating in most cases, that leaves the door open that in some cases arms aren't considered defensive weapons. What did I say about arm punches that was incorrect? That it depended on if the part of the arm that was hit is considered a block? That's consistent with that statement that in some (but not all) cases arms are considered defensive weapons. I made it pretty clear that I did not consider arm punches that hit forearms or elbows as scoring.

The idea that some arm shots could be scored "in some cases" is consistent with the language used in the rules. Unless you have some other interpretation of the line "In most cases the arms are considered defensive weapons". You are acting like it said "In all cases the arms are considered defensive weapons" which is not what it said. And even if it did, the punches in question that I counted hit the shoulder (as well as the bicep). Anything that hits the shoulder (even if it hit the bicep as well) is clearly a scoring shot which you didn't think was, so you have no argument there.

 

Shadow=weasel.
You then go on to prove my point by conflating what was a clear bicep punch to being a scoring shoulder punch.
You do this by being a weasel and stating the bicep is attached to the shoulder but that isn't what is stated in the rules.
That's something you have had to make upto fit your narrative.
I've caught you doing this on many occasions I'm bored of pointing your flawed thinking out to you.
Which you then ignore and then deflect back.....you will literally deflect in your next response because it's what you do every single time.

 

Canelo has judges, making it very difficult to beat him. Haney did a lot of holding and with a different ref may have given Kambosos more opportunity. Kambosos needs a very different gameplan than the one he used. Although if Canelo were in the same position as Kambosis, he would have been given the win, Kambosos does not have that luxury, and Haney definitely outboxed him with the jab alone, supported by holding and bending down low to avoid punches.

George needs to leave it all out there in the first rounds and outmuscle Haney, getting into the trenches, sonething like AJ's only chance against Usyk.

I remember the moment I realised George was going to struggle, he hit Haney with a good shot that stunned him, but stepped back instead of going for a stoppage.

 

Neither rematch is called for. Both results will be repeated.

 

This clearly connects to the shoulder :

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Part of the glove hits the bicep as well, it's a shoulder/bicep bomb. There's no way around that.

You are trying to say it didn't connect to the shoulder, which is mad, but par for the course for you.

Here is a screencap of it hitting the shoulder : https://i.imgur.com/2Kecojp.jpg

 

Thank you for posting the evidence proving my point.

 

Your point that it didn't hit the shoulder is disproven by this screenshot : https://i.imgur.com/2Kecojp.jpg.

You can see clearly that the shoulder is compressed, the skin on top of the Bivol's shoulder is being pushed up due to the force of the blow. A clear shoulder shot, I just caught you lying yet again with you claiming it didn't hit the shoulder and only the bicep. I never get tired of proving you wrong. It's very satisfying to present the video and photographic evidence that exposes your neverending fabrications.

 

You've not proven anything you mental case. You're lying by saying it's a clear shoulder shot which it very clearly isn't.
Then conflating and lying by trying to reframe what I'm saying...
That's 95% arm punch and therefore does not score for me as a shoulder shot.
You can spin. lie and try and deflect as much as you want....you called it a bicep / shoulder punch from the start.....you complete tool.
The only person here full of nonsense is you shadow. you are literally damaged in the head.

 

...and this is coming from someone who didn't see the second half of the match and was rooting like hell for GKJ (didn't pay attention to any of the build-up the week of, either, so I'm still in the dark why some people are saying that Haney became somehow more sympathetic or the lesser of two evils).

I scored the first two rounds for Kambosos, but honestly just on the strength of grazing Haney with a couple of beefy overhand rights. Otherwise that was a close and cagey opening pair. The rhythm that was established over the next four made it obvious that all hope was lost, and pretty much everyone's scoring here and on the rest of the internet confirms that Kambosos never came near bagging the four more rounds he needed (from the 7th until 12th) on my card in order to even salvage defending his belt with a draw, let alone the dub. I'd watch the second half, but...don't really want to, given how rounds 3-6 looked. Perfectly willing to accept everybody's word for it that it stayed in more or less that same pattern.

As for Bivol, he put on nearly as much a boxing clinic versus Canelo as PBF did, but combined with his size, dealt him more of a decisive authoritative hiding. That was an even clearer victory than Haney's over Kambosos, schooling with a side of ass-kicking.

 

You're blind if you don't think that hit the shoulder. It connected squarely on the shoulder, compressing it as referenced in that screenshot. You can even see the skin on the top of his shoulder pushed up from impact. Bivol winced in pain from that, his body language in that screenshot is priceless.

I can kick your ass like this all night. You're being dishonest about it not hitting the shoulder or being a scoring shot.


I called it a shoulder/bicep bomb, which it was. It hit the shoulder and the bicep. You said shouder shots weren't scoring shots. I said they were. You were wrong, I was right. Now you're waffling about trying to claim it didn't hit the shoulder lol when the screenshot shows it hit the shoulder clear as day.

 

You mental case....

 

It hit the shoulder kid. It landed Hard, compressing the shoulder, pushing the skin of his shoulder up. Clearly visible in that screenshot. You deny reality, even when faced with indisputable photographic evidence. Your games don't work against me. You got wrecked again.



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With Canelo judges, Canelo has a better chance to "beat" Bivol by highway robbery. He's got power, which is still a better variable than anything Kambosos has.

And who is the dumbass who keep saying punches to the shoulder are scoring punches?

 

'Bicep Bomb'

 

Damn straight. I coined that term. You know, you really should be thanking me rocketman. Before I set you straight, you didn't know what a scoring shot was. You literally didn't know what the scoring areas were. And even worse, you acted like you did, like you were some kind of a scoring expert lol. Not counting shoulder shots was a fundamental flaw in how you scored rounds. Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

You really should be thanking me, because without me, you would still not be scoring shoulder shots, you would still be under the impression that those kind of shots couldn't be scored. You can't score rounds accurately without knowing what the scoring areas are. So there's no point in your resistance to scoring shoulder shots any longer. Resistance is futile.

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