Who has a better legacy, Tito or RJJ?

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  1. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Legendary?

    Camacho was about 7-8 years past his best. What did he ever do at welterweight?

    Carr and Campas were good undefeated contenders, and probably his best wins at WW, along with an old (but never clearly defeated) Whitaker. Tito won about a round or two combined against Hopkins and Wright, so that doesn't really do much for his legacy. His "win" over De La Hoya is questionable. Mayorga? Mayorga was no middleweight, he hasn't even shown much power at 154 let alone 160.

    Vargas is Tito's best win, followed probably by Joppy. Beating a young Reid was good, but that hardly constitutes a "legendary" resume.

    At least not one of victories.
     
  2. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    No he beat Hopkins, Toney, Tarver, Paz, Mccallum, Griffin, Woods, Ruiz, etc.

    Thanks for playing.
     
  3. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The line up is legendary per say but it doesnt compares to Jones.
    Tito was great, the best welterweight of his time before he moved up and won 2 titles at other weights but Jones was more talented, and also won more titles 160-heavyweight, and beat and fought more champions these are facts: only fighter he fought he didnt beat was GlennCoffe Johnson.

    Glen Johnson, actually beat Hopkins, Toney, Hill, Vinny Paz, Mike McCallum, John Ruiz, Lou Del Valle, Reggie Johnson, Jorge Castro, Jorge Vaca, Eric Lucas, Antonio Tarver, Clinton Woods, Montell Griffin, and in Jan. Trinidad...
    thats 15 champs excluding Trinidad
     
  4. Shane_Erich

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  5. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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  6. Tito Time

    Tito Time slayin um Full Member

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    I would have to say RJJ... But Trinidad will always be liked more, by way more fans.. Plain and simple... RJJ will never get the love Tito did...

    RJJ, boxing at its purest form... Trinidad, is the peoples champ!
     
  7. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wow, i can't believe someone would ask a question with such an obvious answer.
     
  8. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Welcome to ESB...home of the stupid question with the obvious answer.

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  9. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    :lol: :good
     
  10. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Obvious answer my ar$e. It's a 4 page debate by the time you said anything.:patsch
     
  11. Thread Stealer

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    Jorge Castro was pretty young when Roy fought him.
     
  12. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jones defeated much more Top10 contenders, was better toe-to-toe and had success in more weight classes.

    Jones > Trinidad
     
  13. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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  14. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    There's a real conflict of quantity vs quality here. I feel Tito has wins (DLH, Vargas etc.) of a quality to exceed any of Roy's, but at the same time Roy compiled a large resume of significant fighters, performing consistently against them. I also think their losses weigh equally against them: Tito proved vulnerable to a specific strategy and failed time after time against it; Jones found himself in the same position Ali was in as he got slower, but showed he didn't have the quality of chin to stay at the top as his reflexes aned.

    I suppose I lean slightly towards Roy Jones, but it's very close. I think if Tito can successfully move up in weight and beat Jones, it swings the balance in his favour.
     
  15. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    DLH and Vargas don't outstrip Toney and Hopkins. Especially since a majority feel he lost to DLH.