Who Has Been #1 In Two Weight Divisions?

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  1. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :patsch can't believe nobody (including me) thought of that one yet, good one :good
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Total F'ing boss....

    Yeah but that is just holding a title. It's not the same as holding the lineal title or being the consensus #1. And since the fight was at 168 pounds I find it hard to give credit to Leonards' LHW ranking (given that 168 and below is a separate division).

    The RING was hypocritical in keeping Pacquiao the JWW lineal champ as long as they did.

    He was #5 at WW by the RING after Oscar and maintained that position after beating Hatton.

    Rather than relieving Pac of his lineal title at 140 when he moved up to challenge a titlist in Cotto at WW, they kept him as champ. Even when he signed on to fight Clottey, they kept him as the 140 lineal champ up until the week after that fight... They simply don't do that with other fighters. Hell, they booted Huck from the cruiserweight rankings when he moved up to HW for one fight against Povetkin when his last fight at cruiserweight was something like 4 months before the HW fight...

    HOWEVER, when Pacquiao beat Cotto he was only elevated to the spot of #2 WW by most people as Margarito had just beaten Cotto and was #1 before he lost to then #3 Mosley. Therefore, you'd be hard pressed to try to tell me that Pacquiao was the #1 WW after he beat Cotto. If you feel that way, than Pac would apply to this thread. But there really isn't much of a case to be made there... With retrospect we can say Margarito is garbage and should be forgotten about, but at the time the rankings were what they were. There will be no consensus when it comes to this matter, would be my guess.
     
  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I thought of him earlier and had looked him up to make sure.

    He held the "World MW title" of 158 pounds when he went up and beat Corbett for the Heavyweight title. So you could say that. However, it was nearly 3 years since he defended that MW title when he fought Corbett, so I don't know about saying he was definitive #1 in two divisions at once with that time span between and the fact that record keeping in the early 1890's wasn't exactly all that great.

    His winning of the Light Heavyweight title was after he lost to Jeffries twice so that isn't a factor here.
     
  4. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not to argue with you, but isn't that what i said?
     
  5. frosty36

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    To be fair though winning belts in multiple divisions means nothing compared to what it meant back then. As back then there was 1 title so you know Armstrong beat the number 1 guy in those divisions at the time whereas these days fighters move up in weight and pick out of all the belt holders the one that is most suited to their style.
     
  6. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's why i wasn't talking about just winning belts. I'm talking about the linear/universally recognized/whateveruwannacallem championships that Mayweather won in the weightclasses i mentioned...
     
  7. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    was never the champion in any weight class he fought in. He was a trinket beltholder. Sorry.
     
  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Been trying to explain this to the Roy Jones nuthuggers on here for years and they don't/can't understand this. They think wining the vacant WBC, WBA, IBF belts means you are THE champion. Doesn't work like that.
     
  9. nicamarvin

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    Floyd Mayweather....
     
  10. freedom2013

    freedom2013 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Joe Calzaghe, at 168 and 175.

    Catchweights don't count, he should have fought Canelo at 154 to claim #1.
     
  11. Jon Saxon

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    Evander!!
    Total dominance.
     
  12. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What Floyd has done differently is that he has actually defended both titles and is the recognized champ in both not just a titlist.
     
  13. nicamarvin

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    last time I check the Jr.MW has a weight range of 147+ to 154 you imbecile :hey
     
  14. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Barney Ross, who reigned at Lightweight and Jr. Welter, and then subsequently at Welter and Jr. Welter. Kind of fitting that his final fight was against Armstrong. One boss passing the torch to another. :deal
     
  15. nicamarvin

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    thats right... Fighting Martinez for his MW WBC and Ring Title would be awesome....:bbb