Who has been Pacquiao's most "Prime" opponent?

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  1. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    All those guys were prime when he fought them, with the possible exception of Juan in the third fight, who had already started his downward slide. Oscar was past it when he fought him, and Mosely was deroided and past it.
     
  2. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh we forgot, Cotto was shot to **** when Pac fought him. It was until Floyd fought Cotto that Cotto became prime :lol:.
     
  3. JMP

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    Wide eyes, open jaw, devastation, and tears, followed by angry screams and foot-stomps...then violently tearing numerous posters off of the bedroom wall.
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    cotto was much faster at WW. his jabs were much sharper than the ones encountered by floyd. and he is much fresher (about 3 yers younger). he took a knee against margo to live and fight another day. everyone thought he was finished after that but he beat clottey. no one has ever dominated clottey before even margo.


    nice counter-argument. :-(
     
  5. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    everyone says Mosley was shot to ****, but Pac knocking his ass on the floor and making him run is/was a good feat.
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    of course *****s and some hardcore cotto apologist would say that that cotto was the worst version of cotto ever. not actually the case if they just watched the first two rounds until cotto was hit by a game changer. pac actually changed game-plan in order to entice cotto to trade and abandon his jab where he did great in round 1.
     
  7. jan_fan

    jan_fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's precisely what I saw in the Pacquiao fight. His boxing skills, his jabs were there and they were really good ones. Cotto may have encountered some difficulties in those stages in his career but his skills were really there. He was beating Pac to the pulp when he started boxing him.

    I won't argue with some of Cotto's 'mental illness' issues that time but the one thing I'm sure, his skills were displayed there and his skills were great.
     
  8. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Cotto at his worst was still a very good fighter, but it's plain to see he was at his worst with Joe Santiago against Pacquiao. Hunched over far too much, wide punches, off balance, paying no attention to foot placement, over-committing and telegraphing his jab, etc.
     
  9. Jorrvaskr

    Jorrvaskr Active Member Full Member

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    where's the Shane Mosley option?
     
  10. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    yeah I know english is your second language, but if you could read, you'd see I already said Cotto wasn't shot.

    :rofl I can totally see that now

    this **** is simple man.

    Who was MORE in THEIR respective prime?
    Bradley or Cotto?
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    wide punches because he was forced into brawling. watch round 1 and you would see cotto maintining his game plan with his usual straight and sharp jabs that kept pac at bay and actually took that round in the 3 judges eyes. pac was just faster and confused cotto with his angles. it also helped that pac enticed cotto to come inside by covering up.

    i believe that if cotto just maintained discipline, he could have finished the fight and even have a good chance of winning on points.
     
  12. jan_fan

    jan_fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Are you trying to make fun or something>?
     
  13. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    Erik Morales, that WAR really took something outta him!
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    exactly. those "mental issues" that you are saying is the way cotto would flinch everytime he gets hit. i think that's the effect of the margarito fight. but physically, it was still a fast cotto with his boxing skills intact. that's why i laugh at people that time (mostly *****s) who said cotto was shot.
     
  15. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Being forced into brawling is a symptom of not having a proper corner. Look at the way he was punching leading up to the second knockdown-so much of his weight on the front foot, right and left looping all over the place before the side-step + left uppercut knocked him down. In all the wars he'd been in, Cotto was never so sloppy when exchanging, and never looked so helpless and clueless once dropped. Before that fight and since then, his defense and punching form and balance and lateral movement has looked better. I'm not discrediting Pacquiao's win, but Cotto was unprepared tactically and it showed in his mechanics.