Who has better resume: David Tua or Alexander Povetkin

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's compare these two contenders with very good list of wins:

    Tua beat

    (former or future) HW champions-

    Rahman (prime)
    Ruiz
    Moorer (clearly past prime)
    Maskaev

    CW champion Robert Daniels

    HW contenders (and fringe contenders)

    Fres Oquendo
    David Izon
    Darroll Wilson
    Obed Sullivan
    Dannel Nicholson
    Shane Cameron
    Friday Ahunanya


    Povetkin beat

    former HW champions

    Chagaev
    Byrd (way past prime)
    Rahman (completely shot, not top-100 at that time)

    CW champion

    Marco Huck
    Imamu Mayfield (shot)

    HW contenders and fringe cjntenders

    Eddie Chambers
    Carlos Takam
    Mike Perez
    Cedric Boswell (old)
    Larry Donald (shot)
    Friday Ahunanya
    Manuel Charr
    Andrzej Wawrzyk


    I'd pick Tua here.

    He has better list of HW champions beaten, as well as a bit better list of contenders and fringe contenders
     
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  2. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Regards Rahman, yes shot, but to say completely shot is giving Povetkin no credit. Rahman was coming off 5 straight KO's after Wlad beat him, all vs Wilder type challengers albeit. :hey
     
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  3. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Tua, definitely. He would have been a belt holder in the wasteland that was created after Lewis retired, had he remained in shape.
     
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  4. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, he was beyond shot. Those 5 wins were over fighters that were in top 300-500 range.

    In his very next fight Rahman was easily beaten by 3-2 novice who had 1 fight in the last 5 years and that was loss!!! to 0-10 guy. So Rahman at that moment was even worse than that 0-10 opponent.

    Rahman was already shot when Wlad beat him, and that was 4 years prior to Povetkin fight
     
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  5. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tua for now .
     
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  6. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    His 'very next fight' was two years later, age 42. Factor in the Pov loss and time out the ring he was certainly completely shot there. Not sure about in 2012. Pov is the only guy to blow him out, just like he did to Perez, nobody is going to claim Perez was shot.
     
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  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    He should have won a belt in the Lewis era as well. He's always mentioned as one of the best HW's that never won a titlebelt.
    The man beat quite a number of later or former champions of that era (some in their primes), and even demolished a couple.
     
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  8. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Perez wasn't, Rahman was. He could barely walk to the ring with his sick knees.

    That Rahman would've lost to Wawrzhyk, and both aren't top-10 Povetkin wins
     
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  9. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Povetkin: Gold medal, World & Euro championship, WBA Regular title

    Tua: Nothing
     
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  10. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Amateur boxing has nothing to do with pro resume.

    WBA regular belt is slightly (if at all) better than intercontinental belts and is equal to WBC silver belt.

    :deal
     
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  11. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    I'm sorry my heavily-biased-against-your-neighbors friend, but that's incorrect. :cool:

    Povetkin won Olympic gold medal, world championship and 2 European champions, beating every man he ever faced.

    He also won WBA "Regular", which is officially only inferior to WBA "Super" title, no matter what your heavily biased opinion is. So far, Povetkin only ever lost to Wladimir Klitschko.

    David Tua won nothing.

    He lost to Byrd (who lost to Povetkin) and Ibeabuchi among others, and drew with Rahman among others.

    In addition to that, Tua got one-punch KO'd clean by Felix Savon, inside 15 seconds. :deal
     
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  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Rahman should be 2-0 over Tua.... Tua hit him after the bell in the first fight, Rahman was ahead on the cards and he never fully recovered. 2nd fight Rahman was flat out robbed.

    Tua was behind against Oquendo, Izon, and Maskaev, he needed to rally to win. Tua simply wasn't that good, he could punch, but Povetkin can do that and then some. Tua at the end of the day is one of the most overrated heavyweights of all time.....
     
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  13. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    You're delusional man.... Tua is apparently one of the best heavyweights of all time, he beats all of the old greats! Despite coming short in nearly every big fight of his career!
     
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  14. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He fought Rahman nearly a decade after Lewis.

    Id say thats pretty much a shot fighter.
     
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  15. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Better resume.

    Not who won what medals in the amateurs.
     
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