Who has fought the better fighter J.TAYLOR or CALZAGHI?

Calzaghe.

And even if he did fight who you consider to be the top of the top on taylor's record, he wouldn't lose to any of them, especially not Pavlik or struggle with Wright.

 

Quite a good point - though I wouldn't be so sure that Calzaghe wouldn't have had an 0 on his record.

Maybe he would have lost, if he had fought Sven Ottke in Germany, though Ottke's trainer (or manager - can't remember) stated in Britain's Boxing Monthly mag that Ottke didn't want to fight Calzaghe, preferring to remain as the IBF champion.

For the uninitiated, Calzaghe would knock Ottke down with a body shot, only to be deducted a point for hitting in the back, and then another one for a low blow in the next round. In the 12th round, losing 110-98 on the scorecards, Joe is disqualified for repeatedly punching his opponent, which is clearly against the rules of boxing.

Sven Ottke, Rocky Marciano - two of a kind!

 

Jermain Taylor has fought the better competition
Joe Calzaghe is the more complete fighter

 

Actually he hasn't.

 

The Americans generally go from fighting bums to fighting at a good level then the elite at a good pace - with guys being fast tracked or booted out, whilst Brits (and Europeans generally) fight bums for too long, then a couple of good fights, before fighting for P4P championships etc, meaning we get exposed.

Not saying we wouldn't anyway, but we would certainly stand a better chance of succeeding if we adopted certain American principles, such as the aforementioned progression, and ignoring inter-alphabetty titles, concentrating on 'proper' traditional belts.

 

Taylor. I Believe He Has Fought Against Better Competition.

 

Calzaghe

Taylor has fought a weight drained and old Hopkins that struggled to make 160, and still went life and death/got a gift decision. That version of Hopkins is not an elite fighter

Wright is another one past his best, he's static

Pavlik is not an elite fighter, not even close to Kessler

Calzaghe then has solid B levels like Brewer, Reid and Lacy to fall back on, whereas Taylor has a few JMW's

 

Why the hell is Manfredo on that list?

Typical yank, hasn't actually got a clue about the SMW division

 

Calzaghe has the better resume, but they are hardly light years apart.

 

When you put up Manfredo as one of this best opponents, it just displays your ignorance and lack of knowledge on the subject at hand. Like he's the only guy you've heard of, because he's American

Best wins would be Kessler, Eubank, Lacy in that order

Then guys like Brewer, Mitchell, Reid (could make a case for him being better than Lacy)

 

Eubank was top class, albeit probably a little over the hill, whilst the two Americans, Lacy and Manfredo were given a chance of doing it, in fact, Lacy was expected to school Joe!

Kessler is a world class operator, and was winning the fight at the midway stage, he will prove this in future by demolishing any SMW the Americans can put in front of him.

Taylor has gone backwards since beating Hopkins, but even so, has fought a good level of opposition in his last ten fights.

I would say its about even to be honest, certainly recently.

Joe won the title from Eubank, top class, but some of his defences weren't all that cracking to be honest, until about halfway through his reign as WBO champ.

 

Eubank was shot when Calzaghe fought him.

 

You ****ed your post up with this ****.

 

Why mention Ouma and Spinks? Ouma's not even a top LMW, neither are legit MW's, they are small LMW's.