Who has improved more? Pac or JMM?

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  1. Boyd

    Boyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    who do you guys feel has improved more since their first fight? both men have improved by alot. they are my number 2 and 4 P4P. pac has added the nice right hook, but i think Marquez is a much better all round fight. i will pick him by UD.
     
  2. LogDog69

    LogDog69 Active Member Full Member

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    I think JMM is definitely the all around better fighter but Pac has definitely improved more from where he started.
     
  3. koko of phil

    koko of phil Ring of Fire Resident Full Member

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    JMM. But I don't think that improvement is enough to easily beat Pac.
     
  4. Shpion

    Shpion IDF Full Member

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    I don't understand what some mean by, "he is a better all around fighter." Yes, JMM is technically better than PACman but he is inferior at least in the speed, power and output department. I actually think that PACman has improved his defense as well as offensive tools since their last encounter while JMM remained the same.
     
  5. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pac has gotten way better, no question.
     
  6. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At the end of the day, I think the more appropriate question is did pac improve enough to be able to defeat jmm , same question goes to jmm has he improved enough to be able to defeat pac?

    One's improvement may sometimes not be enough to DEFEAT the other. Ones thing for sure. Wether it was pac or JMM who improved?

    For me it does matter so much WHO IMPROVED coz if they fight. PAC is 99% sure to win!
     
  7. knockout

    knockout Make my day Full Member

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    of course pac he has power in his right hand now and using it more,and his defence improve alittle bit.While marquez is willing to trade more.
     
  8. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac has improved his defense by using quick and constant head movement and has added more variety to his offense. He has improved way more than Marquez has.
     
  9. fightfanatic1

    fightfanatic1 Fight Junkie Full Member

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    i voted JMM. Pac has added the right hand, but i think JMM adding the come forward boxer/puncher to his arsenal has made him that much more dangerous. He isn't relying on countering all fight long anymore. He's forcing the action and that spells trouble for anyone including Pac. I think in a re-match JMM wins a UD.
     
  10. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    If i were JMM i'd stick to counter-punching when facing pac. :good
     
  11. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    yep. the last thing jmm should do is come forward and initiate the action vs. pac.
     
  12. fightfanatic1

    fightfanatic1 Fight Junkie Full Member

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    i don't disagree but it's hard to win going backwards all night long. And i don't think JMM will do that the whole fight. He will come forward at some point and force the action.

    But i still think the JMM wins the fight.
     
  13. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed. I dont think Pac has a chance if he fights JMM the way he fought Barrera. I think Pac actually looked even more beatable in that fight due to the fact taht Barrera was just there for the retirement pay and i think his primary goal was to just be able to finish the fight and his ring age has come into play.
    JMM is not as sharp as he once was but hasnt been in many wars so i predict he still has enough to pull the "upset".
    And the improvement thing. Pac has improved the most but come on the way he used to fight before how could he not improve. He had a 1-2 thats it. Its effective because of his speed and power but a good technitian can decipher that and JMM seems to be the one who can do it.
     
  14. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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  15. Raden

    Raden Southpaw Full Member

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    OMG... JMM will get smashed!!!

    Go Manny Go!!!!