Who has Kessler beat prior to the Super 6 that beats anyone in the Super 6?

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  1. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great move by Kessler.

    He fights Sartison for some paper champ belt that nobody gives a **** about on some nobody gives a damn card, instead of fighting Miranda on HBO.

    Great logic.
     
  2. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Are you sure that was what you meant to post?
     
  3. MarvellaHogg

    MarvellaHogg Newcastle 5-1 5under1and Full Member

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    Same can be said for allan green

    who the hell did he beat to get in the super 6 ?
     
  4. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep, because when was the last time Kessler fought on HBO?

    :lol:

    You see what I'm sayin?

    Miranda was still fightin on HBO, but Kessler?

    He fought Sartison.

    :lol:

    They called "Miranda's bluff."

    Yeah, okay Kessler.

    VIKING "WARRIOR"
     
  5. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You want PROOF?

    Straight from ESPN.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3312534

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    By Dan Rafael
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    A May 24 super middleweight showdown between former unified titleholder Mikkel Kessler and brash puncher Edison Miranda imploded Tuesday when Kessler withdrew from the fight.


    Miranda promoter Leon Margules of Seminole Warriors Boxing and promoter Lou DiBella, who brokered the deal on behalf of Kessler's Danish promoter Mogens Palle, both were at a loss to explain why Kessler pulled out of a fight that Showtime had already announced on its Web site.

    The sides agreed to a deal March 14 and were finalizing the paperwork when, according to Margules, Kessler agent Michael Marley informed Showtime on Tuesday that the fight was off.

    "I have no idea why he pulled out. He must be afraid to fight Miranda," Margules told ESPN.com. "We gave them everything they asked for. Showtime gave them everything they asked for."

    Margules said Showtime, which agreed to pay $1 million for the fight and beat HBO's offer, wanted the fight so badly that it even agreed to change the date of its "Showtime Championship Boxing" telecast from May 10 to May 24 to accommodate Kessler, who felt he needed additional time to train.

    "The Kessler people haven't given me an explanation," Margules said. "They're acting like we're [messing] with them. I'm outraged. If their explanation is that we didn't meet their deal points, I have their points in writing. Everything was in the contract that they asked for. They wanted it to be a 10-round fight. We gave them that because they wouldn't even discuss a 12-rounder. They insisted on all sorts of things and we gave them everything."

    Among other concessions given to Kessler: The bout would not take place on Native American property or in Florida. Seminole Warriors Boxing is a Native American-operated promotional company based in Hollywood, Fla.

    Also, Kessler was to be paid 400,000 Euros (approximately $600,000 U.S.) and Palle would retain lucrative television rights in Scandinavia, Germany and other territories.

    "They took the fight and then they backed out," Margules said. "We had a deal in writing, and although it was not signed yet, we all said, 'We have a deal.' Showtime even had the fight on its Web site. Everything was worked out and my fighter was in camp. And then, no fight."

    Margules said Marley didn't even bother to call him and that he found out from Showtime that the fight was off.

    DiBella was also disgusted with Kessler and his team.

    "I was dealing with Mogens Palle and Mike Marley. I should have expected no less," DiBella said. "I found this fight for Kessler at the request of Mogens and I spent a lot of time working on it. We sent them a contract reflecting everything they asked for. But then Mike wouldn't take my calls for a week and Mogens has been ill. No one ever came back with comments on the contract and then Mike called [Showtime's] Ken Hershman directly and blamed me, saying the contract didn't reflect the deal. Then Ken asked him why they never came back with comments on the contract and Mike changed his tune and said that Kessler had some other opportunity for a world title fight. Which is it?

    "The way in which this was handled is preposterous. If they didn't want the fight, just say so. I made an unbelievable deal for the Kessler side but they are too stupid to see it."

    Marley didn't return a telephone message or e-mail from ESPN.com seeking comment.


    Miranda, who is 2-0 since moving up to super middleweight in the wake of his May 2007 middleweight title elimination loss to Kelly Pavlik, who would go on to win the title, wasn't all that surprised that Kessler withdrew.


    The trash-talking Miranda had goaded Kessler into the accepting the fight in the first place.

    "I didn't get my hopes up because I know Kessler is afraid of me," Miranda said. "We gave him everything he wanted to make this fight and he still wouldn't take it. In fact, the only thing we didn't give him is the opportunity to tie my hands around my back while we fought. But at this point I'm willing to even give him that because I know if I yelled 'boo' at him in the ring he'd turn and run. I said it before and I'll say it again -- he should be ashamed to call himself a 'Viking Warrior.'"

    Kessler (39-1, 29 KOs), of Denmark, hasn't fought since losing his two belts via lopsided decision to Joe Calzaghe in a Nov. 3 unification fight.

    Miranda (30-2, 26 KOs), of Colombia, is one of the biggest punchers in the 168-pound division. Both of his losses came at middleweight, a controversial decision in Germany to Arthur Abraham in a 2006 title bout and the loss to Pavlik.

    Showtime has not decided what it will do about its May card.

    Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer.
     
  6. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Miranda wasn't fighting on HBO.

    Do you know anything?

    It is pretty ****ing funny though that you posted a link that completely trashed your own argument. I though I was going to have to link to that, but you saved me the bother :lol:
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ignorance again here. Kessler fought Sartison because it was for a world title, whilst fighting Miranda wasnt going to gain him anything. But as Philla said, for a guy thats fought all these top names and away at times, do you really think he was going to be worried about Miranda?


    Still who on Kesslers resume could compete in the super 6

    Calzaghes on his record a would beat them all but I assume you mean on Kesslers win resume

    Beyer - 3 time WBC champ would probably beat Green, Dirrell and AA

    Mundine - probably beat Green and possibly Dirrell and AA

    Sartison - probably beats Green

    Froch - beat Dirrell already and could give any of them a run for there money

    Andrade could possibly beat AA, Froch and Green
     
  8. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    Hendo, I'll say it again, he divorced himself from the shithead promoters that were pulling his strings shortly after that fight. Then he went on to defend against Perdomo and now is in the S6 Tournament.

    His old promoters would never have gone for something this ambitious.
     
  9. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Yay, Hendo finally managed to find the right link :happy

    Trouble is he already posted the second part of the story where Kessler came back with an offer for a title fight, on HBO, in Miranda's home arena, and Miranda turned it down :lol::lol:
     
  10. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He beat long time and then reigning WBC world champion Beyer. He beat the Ring number 3 (after Calzaghe and Kessler) Mundine, He beat the Ring no 3 and then WBA champion, Siaca. He beat the Ring number 5 Andrade (Andrade's highest ever ranking).

    Only 1 in SS has beaten anything close to that - Froch.... and Kessler ha beaten Froch.

    In addition Kessler's resume is deeper than anyone elses - including Froch.
     
  11. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Hendo, this alias is really not working out for you son.

    Time to sign up a new one where you might at least manage a couple of weeks before everyone realises who you are....
     
  12. Maden

    Maden Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Another worthless thread by this TS...

    Why the hatred towards Kessler? He has accomplished more than all the other super six fighters combined...

    Who has the other contestants beat prior to the Super 6 that beats anyone in the Super 6?

    Stop trolling around, it is getting quite boring!
     
  13. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    This is a pretty ridiculous thread. Kessler is the only guy in the S6 who had a decent resume' before it started. Unless you count JT. Two wins over BHop.
     
  14. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    andrade would beat green,but not froch and AA.
     
  15. MarvellaHogg

    MarvellaHogg Newcastle 5-1 5under1and Full Member

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    EVERYONE beats allan green

    but green protests he trained to hard , he got his intestines took out , the other guy isnt allowed to punch etc... :)