Who has Marquez beaten in the Welterweight Division?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by davebenoit, Dec 7, 2012.


  1. Smokin' Joe

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    The simple fact that you made a thread with that title is enough.

    JMM has had 2 fights above 140 in his entire life, and both of them were catchweights under 147. Technically, he's never fought 'at Welterweight'.

    Mayweather, arguably the best boxer on the planet, was his first fight above 140, making the jump from lightweight. And the other fight above 140 was Pacquiao, which he won in my opinion. So what was your point?


    Troll thread is a failure, and so are you. Run along now.
     
  2. Chappy112

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    That's not what the record says.
     
  3. MAG1965

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    no he has not. And not much at 140 either. And then you have Pacman fighting everyone.
     
  4. Smokin' Joe

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    Because he's a natural lightweight.. He's only coming up to take on Pacquiao.


    Jesus, what the **** is wrong with people here.
     
  5. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The point is you missed my point. I am asking who has he fought in the welterweight other than Pac and Mayweather to prove himself a worthy welterweight contender? And why is he avoiding other fighters? Apparently, and I agree with one poster is that is purely business and not in pursuit of greater legacy. So, my other point point is why should some people elevate him to ATG status on the level of Pac when he has not achieved anything other a draw and two losses against Pacquiao.
     
  6. davebenoit

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    He fought Mayweather, right? Main reason? M-O-N-E-Y
    Why is he avoiding other junior welters/welters? NO M-O-N-E-Y
    Why does keep on waiting for Pac not fighting others? M-O-N-EY
    My question is do you consider somebody an ATG who fights only
    one fighter and avoid the rest? Definitely NO!
     
  7. davebenoit

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    Not the Boxrec record, but the fight itself. Have you seen the fight? I watched several times. Grandpa Casa was leading before het got knocked out.
     
  8. Chappy112

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    Show me the record? That's just your opinion.

    2 can play your silly game son, it's pathetic.
     
  9. davebenoit

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    See the video and judge for yourself. Don't rely on Boxrec, you fool. :lol:
     
  10. Chappy112

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    Hahahahahaha!
     
  11. davebenoit

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    So how did you judge the fight? before the KO?
     
  12. Chappy112

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    Well like you said it doesn't matter, let's check the record. You can't have it both ways son.

    All I see is Marquez TKO 11.
     
  13. bandeedo

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    whats the point of fighting other welters when the best welter cant beat you. juan isnt 25 yo where he has some throw away fights left in him. if anything, going up in weight to fight the fighter of the decade should earn him some points on the "bad ass" scale. this should be a bigger challenge for juan than it is for pac.
     
  14. davebenoit

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    Did you see the two judges scoring it even. It was a close fight before the KO, and I saw Casa leading by a point.
     
  15. Chappy112

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    That's your opinion as you say.