Who has the best chance of beating Calzaghe?

Is that Father Time? or Old Father Time?

I hear the first guy is bad, you aint got a chance with the second

 

conundrum

 

Although glens style is come forward he is not throwing as much nowadays at points in the dawson fight you could see that if he had a little more work rate/energy he could have given him more problems.
I think joe outboxes him to a UD. Dont think it will ever happen though, I would like to see glen get a couple of big money fights but that dont look to likely either. Pity as the guy likes to take on anyone.

 

Dawson can match Joe tit for tat and slap for slap and win an easy decision and its clear as day to anyone who knows about the sport of boxing.

 

if you really thought that you would leave the label off your opinion and be confident enough to take someone else's opinion straght up. you won't see me doing this.

 

a strong aggressive guy I felt that if Kessler would have been more aggressive and not try to box as much could have done it. throw alot of punches bobbed and weaved and constantly attacked.

 

Kessler

 

Well put.

It's also why he sometimes looks average.

 

define that skill level based on the fighters you've seen him fight.

this is an international forum so you shouldn't have any problem comparing his performances with the best fighters in the world who you want to compare him to.

 

That is because I don't suck Pavlik's balls off like you do. Calling him number one pound for pound. :rofl

**** off kid.

 

I aint defining ****.

Joe is the best. Up there with Roy.

I have watched most of his fights (own most), have you?

Have you noticed that at no point in his career is he forced back for any significant amount of time?

Have you noticed how he has (arguably) never been in trouble, dazed, on the ropes, taking a beating etc.

Have you ever seen him not take command of the ring, and keep it?

Have you ever seen him take a round off, or significantly tire?

Ever see him not punching much?

How many fights this guy had again?

 

calzaghe has a unique one off style so comparing him to other elite fighters and there styles is not easy.

with calzaghe you have to look at the whole package .

calzaghe`s skill level should be seen in the fact that he can stay right in the pocket/right in front of a banger like lacy uppercut him with both hands/spin him/throw straight lefts/right jabs/right hooks/left hooks/overhand lefts/multilple combos/ and at the same time move his body/head and feet to such an extent that the opponnrt cannot get into position to reply.

calzaghe skill level should also be seen in that v a fighter like keslsler/woodhall /veit tall stand up boxers he can stay on the outside/jab/straight left/counter/lead off /straighten up his punches/ and outbox/outhustle/outslick these type of fighters.

calzaghe skill level should be seen that when in against spoilers where he lacks the power to keep them off him and choses not to work from range he can still spoil better than the best spolier.

against defensive minded fighters he is perpared to look bad , just to let his hands go , in an all out effort to win, whether he looks good or bad.

this is very important quality as i have seen countless fighters lose fights because they want to box correctly and wait for openings rather than look bad.

on top of that add prodgigous workrate/chin/adaptabilty/fantastic head/feet and upperbody movement as well as the abilty to take every single fighters jab away and the experience of knowing what to do in every situation /big fight temeperment and mental strength, that is the package calzaghe brings to the table.

many elite fighters in the worlds toip 10 do individual things better than calzaghe/all punch techniclly better than calzaghe/but none are as adaptable and can change on the fly to being an inside/outside/spoiler fighter as can calzaghe which is why he wins even given his flaws.

his strenghts and style make it impossible for any orthodox fighter to get sparring to face him and even when you find a style to compete he then changes up and so far , his change ups outmanouver what his opoinents can do.

he makes lots of mistakes/fights down sometimes to opponents level/likes a tear up/is getting old/

but still a formiddle fighting machine when taken as an overall package .

 

Good post, well put sean :good

But what's your answer to the thread Q?

 

dawson if he boxes a conservative/box and move fight will cause calzaghe problems.
if he says and trades with calzaghe as he did v johnson 1 through 3 he would lose.

pavlik if he hurts calzaghe is a great finisher

bute not mentioned is a good fighter who mirrors a lot of what calzaghe does , albeit at a slower pace.

IMO neither johnson or tarver would beat calzaghe.

calzaghe has only 1 or 2 fighters before he says he wqill retire so the choice of fighters in the frame v him is small.

i always said for years and years on esb the biggest danger stylewise to calzaghe was bernard hopkins, who i felt had the style to shut calzaghe down.

father time meant he could not implement his style on calzaghe for 12 rounds.