who has the best record of all time?????

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  1. treva1977

    treva1977 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i just saw jimmy wilde`s record on another thread and it was very inpressive,but was it the best,if not do you know who`s is?
     
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    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Maybe Marciano
     
  3. SouthpawSlayer

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    sugar ray robinson
     
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    SHADOW BOX SHADOW BOX Full Member

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    Julio Cesar Chavez. He did fight a lot of journey men but stayed active his whole career. He beat so many great fighters out there and made it look easy. His competitiveness stood until his body couldnt hold it anymore.
     
  5. treva1977

    treva1977 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    alot of people say that but sugars rec 173w, 19l, 6d,compared to jimmy wilde
    137w,5l,2d.
    okay srr won 36 more fights but he lost 19 times to only 5 loses for jw.
    also some people will bring in sam langford 203w, 47l, 45d.
    which to me is alot of wins but far too many loses and draws.
    45 draws how did that happen,that has to be a record of most draws for a boxer.
     
  6. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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    Jimmy Wilde.
    TPPF will back me up on this one.

    i think jimmy is P4P the hardest puncher ever to lace up and was fighting and knocking out guys over 20lbs heavier. jimmy wilde fought from 88lbs up to up to 120lbs and still kept his power.

    I think he is better than SRR due to the higher win count and if you believe the hype Wilde easily had over 500 fights
     
  7. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    joe louis - 11 year heavyweight champ
     
  8. treva1977

    treva1977 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeh i watched a documentary on him on bbc 2w,he was awesome fighting guys twice his size and dropping them.
     
  9. CottoDaBodykill

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    hard to beat this record
     
  10. antcull

    antcull Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Willie Pep
    W229-L11-D1.
    Pretty damn good
     
  11. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Alexandru Manea........0-49,beat that Marciano!!!!
     
  12. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    Harry Greb beat the most HoFer and great fighters in the history of the sport. Sam Langford runs him close though.
     
  13. DINAMITA

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    Do you mean who simply has the highest number of wins and lowest number of losses in a proportional, numerical sense - or are you asking who has the best resume of all-time?

    And also, there should really be two answers to either question, because in the early 20th century, any fight that lasted the distance was declared a draw even if one fighter had been completely dominant throughout, plus also back then fighters fought far more often which they had much more fights but were therefore far more susceptible to a careless loss, so records were not created using the same rules.

    Numerically speaking, Wilde's wonderful record of 5 defeats in 152 fights is challenged from his own era by only Gene Tunney, who had only 1 (possibly 2 depending on your viewpoint) loss in 86 fights. The best record of modern times would be a choice between Julio Cesar Chavez and Ricardo Lopez. Lopez retired at 51-0-1, whereas Chavez made it to 89-0-1 before he lost, and only finished on 107-6-2 because he went on too long and lost 4 of his last 11.

    The best resume ever is a hugely difficult question to answer. Of more modern times, I would say Muhammad Ali has the greatest resume, though Sugar Ray Leonard has surely concentrated the most number of great names into a very short resume. When taking all of history into account, Harry Greb probably takes it for me ahead of Sugar Ray Robinson.


    PS: I'll answer now for Pugilist and his band of psychomaniacs, and say Joe Calzaghe has the best record of all-time, because he has a zero, 20+ WBO title defences in the bag, and wins over Jeff Lacy, Mario Veit and Richie Woodhall on the res.
     
  14. TommyV

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    Pre-arranged draws. In other words, fixed fights. They already decided the fight would be a draw before both guys even stepped in the ring.

    Sad but true.
     
  15. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    Marciano....period

    nothing beats perfect