Who has the best record, Wlad Klitschko or George Foreman?

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  1. Barry Smith

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    The Brewster loss was down to fact he was in with a guy who could slip his jab and a ref who actually enforced the rules. And as we saw just a year later, when a ref enforces the rules against Wlad, even someone as bad as Sam Peter can get to him and hurt him by just coming forward in straight lines and getting past the jab. If Peter had better stamina he would have won that fight.
     
  2. dinovelvet

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    That rematch shouldn't even be brought up.

    He was brought out of an injury induced retirement to just collect a loser check. He was medically unfit to box and his licence was revoked in America. He was beyond shot second time out.

    When they fought prime for prime , Brewster broke him down and knocked him out. That is all that matters.
     
  3. bailey

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    Why do you think Brewster wasnt able to repeat that win and why do you think Brewster took such a bad beating before he got the first win if he was doing so well slipping?
     
  4. dinovelvet

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    There's no doubt Peter would of won. He hadn't the legs to catch up with Wlad who was forced onto his bycylce.
     
  5. bailey

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    Tell me about his injury induced retirement. I do not recall this. What was wrong with Brewster and are you not including Foremans loss to Young in all this?
    I didnt see Brewster break Wlad down. He was getting badly beaten before Wlad just seemed to go very tired. How do you think he was broken down round after round?
     
  6. bailey

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    But he didnt win :patsch:lol:
     
  7. Barry Smith

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    Brewster was finished by the time of the second Wlad fight and had suffered serious eye damage in his previous fight (which he lost). In their first fight Wlad was landing big shot on Brewster but Brewster was tagging Wlad to. In the third round Brewster landed a big left hook on Wlad's chin that he never recovered from, Wlad wasn't allowed to cheat his way out of it with his illegal wrestling and his limited skills, weak chin and poor stamina were exposed.
     
  8. bailey

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    Wlad was winning rounds before the stoppage after the 3rd round.
    As for the eye damage you note, does that not work the same way for Foremans win over Frazier?
     
  9. dinovelvet

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    Frazier only had eye damage for the 3rd Ali fight.
     
  10. bailey

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    Fair enough to that. As said I think Frazier was a very good win, arguably the best win for either. I read he was practically blind by 74 but dont know when the damage had occured before that.
    Back to the overall.
    With all of the names I showed on Wlads resume, do you not think as an overall Wlad has a better resume OVERALL?
     
  11. dinovelvet

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    Bewster had a detached retina. The same injury that retired Margo

    Frazier had a minor cathartic. Big difference.
     
  12. dinovelvet

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    No , because a lot of those wins are bogus due to Wlads illegal tactics and constant fouling.
     
  13. bailey

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    Just looked it up and read Fraziers eye was damaged in 65,
     
  14. Barry Smith

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    You mean one round, Wlad knew he was hurt but fancied he could get Brewster out of there so went for it in the fourth, but Brewster was able to stand up to it and get through it. Wlad also started holding and wrestling a lot towards the end of the round but the ref wouldn't let him cheat and Brewster finished the round strongly. In the 5th Wlad's poor stamina had failed him and he gave up boxing and just tried the wrestle, but the ref wouldn't allow it and Brewster finished him.

    Yes, Frazier also had eye problems, but I don't think it was that bad when he fought Foreman and he is still light years ahead of Brewster in terms of ability anyway, a legit ATG and Foreman didn't need to wait for him to deteriorate to beat him, he did the job the first time round.
     
  15. bailey

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    Think you may need to look it up. I just read more that said nearly blind from 1965, which sounds worse to me. Though I dont claim to be a doctor on the subject
    The word is RESUME Dino.

    Also read more how Frazier had a badly damaged arm he was unable to keep straight.
    With those things in mind the win doesnt look quite as impressive even if it is a very good win