Who has the best record, Wlad Klitschko or George Foreman?

Frazier had eye problems his entire career that got worse. For the second Foreman fight, which was after Manila, he secretly wore a contact into the fight he was so blind.

atsch

 

I read that Frazier was nearly blind from 1965 but it got even worse. I have also read how Fraziers badly damaged arm prevented him from being able to fully straighten his arm. Think that sounds worse, though I dont claim to be a doctor on the subject

 

Lamon had eye issues for most of his championship career; it was not uncommon for him to get corrective laser eye surgery before a fight to get him through it. Ultimately, he was temporarily blinded in his left eye after the Helenius fight, but fortunately his vision returned.

 

Before the rematch. Not after.

'It has been widely reported that Lamon Brewster suffered a detached retina in his left eye in the first round of his April 1st WBO heavyweight title fight against Sergei Liakhovich in Cleveland, Ohio. However, multiple sources tell SecondsOut that these reports don't tell the whole story. Yes, Brewster suffered a detached retina during the Liakhovich fight. But his eye was injured BEFORE'

 

Lets dump on atg hero Frazier to defend a disgracful cheater yeah? Brewster's eye ingury was the type that ends career's.

 

Frazier.... /close thread atsch

 

How is he dumping on Frazier by noting eye trouble? Many cant box to get a career when badly sited in an eye, let alone end a career
Nobody is dumping on George or Frazier, they were great fighters, but this is about overall resumes and you seem to have trouble with that and cannot make a sensible arguement for your opinion

 

All you did is copy paste the names you saw on Wlad boxrec page:rofl

 

atsch Whatever you say Dino .
Now overall resume, had any further thoughts?
As noted before you havent been able to back anything up, like I noted several posts ago and answers like that further cement what I said about that subject

 

Maybe, but George always had stamina issues
Watch his fight against light hitting Jimmy Young-he was out on his feet after being knocked down and lost a UD
He might be able to get by Wlad early, but if not, he is toast and gets KO'd
So I rate them equally

 

firstly, its a well known fact that you invent crap.

Secondly, Frazier slowly developed a cataract, which is largely an age related problem and requires the passage of time to develop, you sont just magically get them when you are 21. You don't get them when you are 21 years old except in extreme, from birth cases.

so to say he got it from age 21 is clearly inventing BS to suit your agenda.

 

2nd time round he was clearly past it, with his age at 34?35? and a record surrounding that fight (inclusive) being 4 wins, 4 losses, compared to an 8 streak win when he fought wlad first time.

having said that its one of wlads best wins.

 

In short Wladimir has a chance to fix his resume, now that his burden of a brother is gone. He can make up for the weakness of the division by becoming the first Undisputed Heavyweight Champion since Lewis, defend the belts Joe Louis style & retire Top 5 Heavyweight ATG

@ things matter:
#1 Undisputed Championship WBC+WBA+WBO+IBF
#2 Number of title defenses of the Undisputed Belt

The more defenses the closer he becomes to the GOAT spot on heavyweight, breaking Joe Louis record title defenses should be Wladimir strategic goal, doing it Undisputed eliminates criticism

 

Dont invent stories Herol. Always try and stick to the facts so that when someone who doesnt know like yourself gets involved, I can lay the information down making them look a further fool.
Even more so than when you duck questions and fail to answer.

Below

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrilla_in_Manila

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bendirs/2011/11/joe_smokin_more_than_ever.html




As for the arm -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Frazier

 

25% feel Wlad losses and wins...give him a better record than Forman... :sad2