he was not retied he fought 6 months before the fight ffs and there was no signs of him declining much, no one gave eubank a hiding like joe did, even when he moved up the cruiserweight he never got dominated like that malinga,greene, abraham,bika, Pazienza, sosa, Lucas, ,Little - of these guys are being mentioned so should his arguably better then most of them
I said semi-retired, if you can't type properly you might at the very least read properly. He fought two unranked fighters in exhibition fights overseas. In the first exbibition fight he weighed in as a Cruiserweight while his opponent weighed in at Super Middleweight. The second exhibition fight was at Cruiserweight too because he sure as hell wasn't going to go through serious training camps for two pointless exhibition quality fights. If you honestly consider those two fights serious activity then you're off your rocker. There's no way in hell a shot to nothingness Eubank is better than Abraham.
I would rate Jones' win over Toney above Ward's win over Froch but Ward has more big wins at the weight which is why I generally rate his resume above.
Sure this is a bait thread. The best SMW resume is Calzaghe, followed by Eubank, then probably Ottke. You have to look at the fights and fighters, where the opponents were in their careers etc. Froch. Whats his best SMW win? A faded version of Kessler, then Bute. Dirrell has not done anything at SMW, Pascal did nothing at SMW, Groves has not done anything at SMW. To tell you how nothing the G Johnson win was. Sheika beat Johnson at SMW to get a shot at Calzaghe years previous when Johnson was prime. How can Ward have a better resume than Calzaghe? Still nobody can counter this This content is protected Calzaghe beat 3 undefeated fighters who had or went on to claim a SMW title. This content is protected 1. Someone tell me which top undefeated fighters Ward has beaten? 2. Tell me which top undefeated world champs Ward has fought? Lets read the answers ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This content is protected Andre Ward............VS.............Joe Calzaghe Froch.....................................Kessler This content is protected (Kessler beat Froch) Kessler...................................Eubank This content is protected Dawson..................................Lacy (Lacy a proven SMW and winner of 5 SMW title fights. Dawson no pedigree at all at SMW) This content is protected Abraham.................................Mitchell (Mitchell a 2 time SMW champ who had never been clearly beaten, only lost by debateable SD in Germany to Ottke, had KOd long time SMW champ Liles, beaten a future SMW champ twice, compared to AA who had done nothing at SMW) This content is protected Bika.......................................Brewer (Bikas best win became Manfredo, Brewer had beaten H Graham and was a SMW champ) This content is protected (Bika was a Calzaghe left over at that time and had been out of the ring bar less than a round for a while) Green.....................................Woodhall (Woodhall a SMW champ, who had beaten a reigning SMW champ, a world rated former champ, a future SMW champ and Branco a world rated SMW who became WBA LHW champ, who at SMW beat R Reid and G Johnson who when old and shot KOd Green) This content is protected Miranda...................................Bika (Bika now a top 5 SMW had drawn with 3 time SMW champ Beyer) This content is protected Buchanan (?????)......................Sheika This content is protected (Sheika was coming off a win over G Johnson and was a top 10 SMW at the time) Camou (?????)..........................Veit (Veit a SMW title holder who had a fair resume, better than at least 2 of the current top 5 SMWs) This content is protected Then include the This content is protected win and then the other top 10 SMWs and its clear Calzaghe is well ahead. I could have put This content is protected ahead of Green, Camou, Miranda, Buchanon Very clear but nobody will have a sensible answer to say otherwise, it will just be a lame Faileys losing it answer when they cant debate against Somebody tell me how Ward has done more than that. Nobody can counter the above or answer the questions. In fact they hide from the questions
hes doing his ******ed match best with worst again....and then asking why no one is answering it... smiley faceslap maximus. god give me strength.
Joe Calzaghe -Best Resume Roy Jones- Greatest single win Chris Eubank should be in this discussion too.
no no I did say largely. so theres no need to scrap any of the minority handful of good fighters on joes cv, nor any reason in the slightest for you to offer to do so.
Lets look at SMW champs they have beaten Calzaghe with wins over Eubank, Kessler, Woodhall, Reid, Lacy, Jones, Bika, Veit, Brewer, Mitchell - All held a world SMW title Ward - Kessler (faded Calzaghe opponent), Froch (beaten by a faded Calzaghe opponent), Bika (faded Calzaghe opponent), Abraham (on a run of 1-2 and only SMW win of note is a debateable win over Steiglitz who stopped him) Yet somehow, somebody think that goes above Calzaghe. lol Froch - Kessler (an even further faded version), Bute, Abraham, Magee (who lost to a faded Calzaghe opponent) Yet somehow, somebody think that goes above Calzaghe. lol Eubank - Benn, Malinga, Rocchigiani, Holmes Ottke - Mundine, Mitchell, Brewer, Reid, Kessler has a good SMW resume with Froch, Beyer, Sartison, Magee, Siaca, Thobela Tell me how does Ward have a better SMW resume than S Collins who holds wins over undefeated Eubank, Eubank again, Benn twice You have to look at all the wins and not just the champs and with that it is - Resume wise it is Calzaghe, Eubank, Ottke.
Isn't that funny how long did Collins fight at super middle ? That's been your whole argument against Roy!