How is Froch a better win than Kessler when Kessler beat Froch and Froch was coming off a Mdec over G Johnson who has lost more at SMW than won. Frochs resume leading up Mdec Johnson, Abraham, loss to Kessler, debated win over Dirrell Whats worse is Toneys SMW resume, yet that is supposed to be a big win for Jones
Whats funny about that? Collins beat undefeated Eubank who has one of the best SMW resumes ever, then repeated the win and beat Benn twice
Still nobody can counter this This content is protected Calzaghe beat 3 undefeated fighters who had or went on to claim a SMW title. This content is protected 1. Someone tell me which top undefeated fighters Ward has beaten? 2. Tell me which top undefeated world champs Ward has fought? Lets read the answers ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This content is protected Andre Ward............VS.............Joe Calzaghe Froch.....................................Kessler This content is protected (Kessler beat Froch) Kessler...................................Eubank This content is protected Dawson..................................Lacy (Lacy a proven SMW and winner of 5 SMW title fights. Dawson no pedigree at all at SMW) This content is protected Abraham.................................Mitchell (Mitchell a 2 time SMW champ who had never been clearly beaten, only lost by debateable SD in Germany to Ottke, had KOd long time SMW champ Liles, beaten a future SMW champ twice, compared to AA who had done nothing at SMW) This content is protected Bika.......................................Brewer (Bikas best win became Manfredo, Brewer had beaten H Graham and was a SMW champ) This content is protected (Bika was a Calzaghe left over at that time and had been out of the ring bar less than a round for a while) Green.....................................Woodhall (Woodhall a SMW champ, who had beaten a reigning SMW champ, a world rated former champ, a future SMW champ and Branco a world rated SMW who became WBA LHW champ, who at SMW beat R Reid and G Johnson who when old and shot KOd Green) This content is protected Miranda...................................Bika (Bika now a top 5 SMW had drawn with 3 time SMW champ Beyer) This content is protected Buchanan (?????)......................Sheika This content is protected (Sheika was coming off a win over G Johnson and was a top 10 SMW at the time) Camou (?????)..........................Veit (Veit a SMW title holder who had a fair resume, better than at least 2 of the current top 5 SMWs) This content is protected Then include the This content is protected win and then the other top 10 SMWs and its clear Calzaghe is well ahead. I could have put This content is protected ahead of Green, Camou, Miranda, Buchanon Very clear but nobody will have a sensible answer to say otherwise, it will just be a lame Faileys losing it answer when they cant debate against Somebody tell me how Ward has done more than that. Nobody can counter the above or answer the questions. In fact they hide from the questions
that's a first, hes posted his failed 'best of calzaghe vs worst of someone else' argument not once, but TWICE. all these years and he still cant see the failure of matching fighters up the way he wants them matched up to fit an agenda. And he thinks people are hiding from answering... keeps him hiding from correcting it, I guess.
Not sure what you are getting at, if Kessler was not a worthy win for Joe, then why is he for froch and ward? that's an unbiased question as im a bigger fan of froch than joe
change the match up Herol. I have put wards best up and then a Calzaghe counter. If you think Ward has a better line up then the top 3, change them around and see how they match up when I put one of Calzaghes opponents up Watch Herol waffle, and duck. Boring irrelevant Herol
I was getting at saying largely, now completely like Wilders resume. So Kessler is in the minority of Joe's that qualifies as a good defence. Not sure what you mean to have missed about that, fill me in.
yeah, what was everyone thinking. toney was just the #2 pound for pound fighter at the time behind whitaker. some had him at 1. crappy win, unless you're from europe, right?
I am not using your failed argument, my name is not failey, thank you, don't pretend I am like you. its been rematched for you before by someone else and you ran off.
P4P is a mythical thing Kmac. Mythical atsch. Toney was a good win for Jones, but look at Toneys SMW resume and it is not as good a win as Collins over Eubank.
Some fights are bigger than the weight class. With Toney- Jones, I look at all their wins, not only their wins at the weight. It was one of the biggest fights in all of boxing at the time, it just happened to be at SMW.
BUT.......if its a such a poor irrelevant counter then why are you trying to chase my challenge up further just a few posts later? suddenly very insecure about your argument, much?