Who has the best victory of all time? Poll Added

The man you are thinking of is Charley Burley. Great fighter, p4p atg but people who say SRR avoided him have to stretch it a bit. When Robinson won his ww title, Burley fought already at mw and when Robinson fought at mw Burley was pretty much done or past it. Yes, they could have fought but it wasn´t a must fight. Burley wasn´t the most exciting fighter, which didn´t help in making this fight either. Aside of that, you can´t fight everyone - and Robinson did with one exception.

Well, if Robinson was still in his prime it was very much at the end. Robinson was at his best at ww anyway.

 

Diego Corrales (vs. Castillo in the first fight)
or
James "Buster" Douglas

 

Log off immediately. :barf

 

Its too hard to say there is a clear no1 victory in history, my favourites are Ali-Foreman, Morales-Pacquiao & Leonard-Hagler.

 

Duran-Leonard 1 is definitely up there, but Duran was no longer a lightweight at that point. His last bout at 135 had been over two years before the fight with Ray.

Duran fought a terrific fight. Very fast hands and feet, good upper body movement, well-placed combos from body to head. He managed to be ferocious yet methodical at the same time.

Leonard was normally more of a flat-footed boxer anyway, not the fleet-footed dancer we saw in the rematch and against Hagler, so I don't really think he was that much out of his gameplan (or normal fighting style).

 

When they were supposed to fight, it was when Robinson was just a contender at WW. They fought on the same card in the Midwest and it was supposed to build-up to a bout between the two. Afterwards, Ray doubled his demand price from $25k to $50k.

Burley himself never blamed Ray and said it was just the nature of the business, not enough money for them to just knock each other off. He had a ton of respect for Ray as a fighter and said he would've avoided Ray if the positions of the two were switched.

 

especially when you consider that Pac was moving up in weight and got cut by a headbutt.


I'd say that Duran over Leonard is the best victory that I've ever seen.

or maybe Frazier beating Ali

 

What about Lamotta giving SRR his first lose

 

The 15 pound weight advantage hurts Lamotta's case.

 

When he himself was a young, inexperienced, moving up contender and Burley already a top guy for quite a while. (I´m exaggerating a bit) Would you risk your career, or at least put a halt on it for a while, against a high-risk low reward fight like Burley? Someone who was seen as a good but boring fighter, who couldn´t attract big crowds. If this would have happened prime for prime I´d agree it would have been a duck but it happened in 1942, before Robinson was quite there. And when he was, Burley fought at mw. That´s why I think you´ve got to stretch a bit to call it a duck.
Gutted that ti didn´t happen so, even that early. Burley would get more credit and would be more known and Robinson would have turned out great anyway, even if he would have lost.

See above.

 

Has anyone mentioned Spinks-Holmes I? I know its not number 1 but in my eyes thats one of the best ive seen, no one gave SPinks a chance and he was the first and last LH to beat a LINEAR heavyweight champion... and the first time he confused HOlmes with his awkwardness and lightning quick herky jerky moves. Spinks won this one pretty convincingly.