Who has the best victory of all time? Poll Added

If part of the reward is the chance of becoming just another one of the murderer´s row, a frozen out contender, I think you can call it low, no matter how much the money is.

A dive? :huh

I´d agree if it would have been a duck if both would have been prime. But a young upcoming prospect fighting an experienced prime fighter, specially a great one as Burley, isn´t a duck for me. He avoided him for understandable reasons. And like I pointed out in my first post on this, a fighter with a resume like Robinson has one free.

 

Turpin over Robinson

 

Great thread btw!!!

I have Duran - SRL as tw greatest victory of all time.

Douglas - Tyson was the biggest upset on paper, but Iron Mike was way off the pace and didn't train which hurts his case.

 

I doubt very much that there bragging about NO RADIO. NO HOME TV:bart

This was standard practise back then before PPv/HBO, the promoters had to rake in as much money as they could by Closed Circuit which was the only live medium of the time. That poster is just informing people that to see the fight live, then go watch it at the designated fight franchise outlet.

Closed Circuit viewing back then was actually bought from the promoters by individual town/area businessmen for a flat fee who where then supplied with the advertising facilities & technology of the day to access the fight live.

If you look at the poster below you'll see that the earlyist stateside veiwing of the whole fight was 29 days after the fight. All dates before the 29th were for foreign sales of highlights & once that juice had been squeezed then joe public could watch it free with Howard Cossell on ABC.

No big fat HBO contracts back then & all fight posters advertising major fights that had Closed Circuit outlets would normally carry the blackout of NO RADIO/NO HOME TV......It's nothing personal, it's bizzness..it's the american way:smoke

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As much as people bash PPV, I prefer it over Closed Circuit, at least from my one experience going to a C.C. event (DLH-Chavez 1). That event was cool too for the new experience, but I prefer watching boxing around not around a bunch of drunk, angry people.

 

Yeh you pay yer $$$ & yer take yer chance, I bet that was a great evening at the DLH/Chavez c.c but they can go badly wrong sometimes. I watched Hagler/Hearns via satalite link up at 5.30am on a tuesday morning in a local town guildhall & only 1 of 4 showing it in the UK. Absolute mayhem!!! 3,000 drunks rammed in & near on locked in for 5 hours with 100's of police in attendance just to provoke a riot & especially after having to endure frank bruno highlights for 3 hours before the live feed can on stream & everyone thirsty seeing they'd closed the bars.

It was a tinder box but once that big red spot came on screen & beat like a heart & then zoomed down onto the Vegas Strip a huge animal roar nearly took the roof off & once the 1st bell rang we coulnt here a thing such was the screaming, ****in awesome night/early morning that will stay with me forever & even the police were joining in screaming there heads off. All of us gripped in a primevil frenzy with the 3K split down the middle & when it was over we all trooped out in good order Hearns & Hagler fans alike & all shell shocked & happy! winners & losers. One of the only times i've seen that happen witout some sort of trouble breaking out & it just had to be that way after what we had been privalliged enough to witness LIVE

 

at Frank Bruno highlights for 3 hours.

I like seeing fights in different atmospheres just to have a different experience. They were showing Mayweather-Marquez in movie theaters and I was trying to convince my friends to go to it, but they insisted on going to a bar instead. I haven't gone to enough big fights live, I'm hoping to go to one in Vegas in the next couple of years.

What I really want to do is to go to a big boxing match in England. All that tourist stuff, go to Big Ben, Parliament, yeah that's cool but being the boxing guy I am, if I go to England I'll take going to the arena for a big fight before that. Just watching it on TV, you can tell the atmosphere kills that of the fights in the US.


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And as an action fight, Bruno-McCall pretty much sucked.

 

How about Ali vs. Liston?

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weaver vs tate ...i was about to go to bed and then !!! and i was a child then.

 

Sanchez vs Gomez
Chavez vs Camacho
Morales vs Pacquiao 1
Marquez vs Pacquiao 2
Castillo vs Mayweather

 

It's always tempting to say Frazier vs Ali I, however you need to check out the facts regarding Armstrong vs Ross. Armstrong was coming up from featherweight to fight for Ross's welterweight title, at the time Armstrong only weighted 133lbs, and Ross was a very dominate champion and in his prime.

 

It isn´t? Low reward has to be put into relation with high risk. You can have a career highpayday, it may still be low reward when the risk is big enough.

It is the same I always do. A long time poster should know that by now. To make a point I exagerate my arguments, blow them up to make it as clear as possible what I mean. But okay, let´s keep it simple. Robinson was pre-prime. Burley was prime. Right?

It seems you don´t agree.

Robinson at the time was a welterweight but Burley fought at mw. So, what you are saying is that a rising welterweight contender is ducking an experienced middleweight contender. I guess you think Pac is ducking Martinez too. That´s a stretch for me.