Who has the better Defense. Mr GGG or Canelo

Robney · May 18, 2017

Canelo has the better defense, but when they fight I'm almost certain he will get hit more (and harder of course) as Golovkin. The difference is in the offense vs defense ratio, combined with the bexers intangibles.

Serge · May 18, 2017

Canelo learned his defensve skills as a child from dodging stones the other kids used to throw at him for being a ginger.

pincai · May 18, 2017

alexland said: ↑

a couple of things confound a direct comparison (ie, ranking one over the other)

workrate
GGG's workrate (punches thrown per round) is probably close to twice what Canelo's is and my guess is that GGG's landed:thrown ratio is equal to Canelo's if not higher

such a big difference in workrate means they prioritize pure defense quite differently

style
counter-puncher versus a pressure fighter--again, defense has a different priority

and lastly, while it's common to talk about defensive skills versus offensive skills, i have never thought that this distinction is valid in boxing; it is in the NFL, NBA, or baseball--ie, at any given time, a team is either on offense or defense

but boxing is different--fighters are simultaneously on offense and defense. For instance, GGG's jack-hammer jab is clearly as much of an offenseive weapon as a defensive weapon (a fair number of boxing commentators say that it was GGG's jab that so effectively throttled Lemieux).

same thing with balance and position (and the footwork necessary to sustain it, versus footwork to move around the ring). GGG's balance and position are the foundation for both his power and his iron whiskers. When he throws, his chin is tucked and his body is deliberately angled so any punch to his melon causes it to rotate as little as possible (punches that generate sharp torque to the skull are what cause knockdowns, likely everyone here already knows).
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Nice one Alexland.

fistsof steel · May 18, 2017

Both are very easy to Hit....Just that Golovkin Hit's much harder...

Reinhardt · May 18, 2017

Flamazide said: ↑

Golovkin actually when he is fighting to be defensively responsible has better defense than Canelo. When he's working behind his ramrod jab, keeping opponents at range, and parrying down their strikes there aren't a lot of fighters that can get around that. Canelo has never displayed the type of skills Golovkin has in his fight vs Lemieux. That being said, that isn't what Golovkin normally does. He also has moments like in the Willie Monroe where after he knocked Monroe down he just...stopped caring about his defense all together. He isn't getting hit on purpose exactly as much as it seems that he doesn't care if he gets hit or not.

They are both different fighters though. Canelo has better upperbody movement, but his feet are very slow. Golovkin is not what people call "slick" in boxing at all, but his footwork is very good and part of the reason his movement is the way it is is because he is always trying to position himself to deliver a power punch which his opponents are weary of so they often throw less than they normally would in fear of getting caught.
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Agreed , Canelo's feet are slow, that's why I think GGG could dynamite him out of there

PH|LLA · May 18, 2017

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