Who has the better resume Joshua or Fury?

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  1. Mc2

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    Not much in it. I dont think its that important how you get to the top level as long as you get there. People look into it too much. All depends on the fighter in question. For example wilder...everyone criticises him. But i think its been perfect so far for him. He learned on the job. Hes now what 30/31 ready to have a crack at the top level. He would have got knocked out if they put him in too early.

    Hes slowly learned and ready to have a genuine crack at it. If hes not fought anyone in the next 3 or 4 years thats when to criticise. But hes here now...lets see what he can do. Fury and joshuas approach different but all lead them to the same place. I actually think they ve rushed joshua too early. Will come back to haunt him. Hes now the hunted. Is he ready to continually go through fights like last nite. Got a feeling his days of going in and beating opponents to a pulp and taking nothing back is over. Has he learned enough in them 18 fight to deal with that...i m not sure.
     
  2. carlingeight

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    Not much in it. Who gets more credit for Kevin Johnson. AJ blasts him out, Fury all but shuts him out. Just another nod to how different their styles are.

    The AJ Wlad couldn't have worked out better as far as AJ Fury goes. All the credit AJ is getting will be just the motivation Fury needs.
     
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  3. murphman22

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    This whole 'terrible fight' argument is laughable. I actually enjoyed it, but understand it's not everyone cup of tea. However, it was a masterclass from Fury. He negated Klitchsko's strengths and maximised his weaknesses taking little risks. The argument that Wlad didn't throw a right hand is because Fury's movement befuddled him. Let's be honest, Joshua doesn't have the lateral movement to do that where as Fury doesn't have the power to bang Wlad out of there. It doesn't mean one is more effective than the other and doesn't prove one will beat the other either.

    Going back to my initial point again, it is ridiculous to compare Fury's early fights with Joshua. Fury was a kid and made a lot of mistakes himself. He may have lost the first McDermott fight but I don't think Joshua would have won that fight either at 19 years old. Let's be honest Joshua got beat by Savon in the Olympics and probably in the final as well but it's not important now.
     
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  4. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    But at 19 Joshua was a complete novice who only had put gloves on twelve months prior
    Amateur is that in the pros a loss can effect future earning potential and title shots
    Some fighters never rebound off some set back
    Ama and pro are vastly different games
     
  5. Twentyman

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    I like AJ and Fury.

    If I was trying to sell the sport to someone who'd never bothered with it, I'd show them AJ having a war with Klitschko. He's exciting and powerful.

    If my son wanted to learn how to box, I would show him Fury's more recent fights. He's elusive, great movement, great jab and hitting him is like trying to nail jelly to a wall.

    I said this a few days ago, it wouldn't be the amazing sport it is if fighters all had the same styles. There's something for everyone.
     
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  6. murphman22

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    Of course. I'm jut trying to illustrate that most heavyweight boxers are not fighting for British titles at 19. Earlier comments on this thread poking fun at Fury's first fight with McDermott are ignorant. Fury himself was going to throw in a mixed bag early in his career due to age if nothing else. While Joshua did start late he still had several years fighting top amateurs in a really professional GB setup. When he turned pro he was far more ready than when Tyson did.
     
  7. liger1992

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    Laughable it is not. The market spoke as when they tried to sell tickets @ the MEN for the rematch they couldn't even fill half the arena.

    People didn't want to watch fury v Klitchko 2 simply because the first fight sucked. They played tag for 12 rounds seeing who could hit each other the least times. It was a horrible spectacle.

    In comparison AJ v Vlad 2 would sell out in mins as Saturday night delivered big time.
     
  8. murphman22

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    Carl Frampton sells more tickets than Rigo...
     
  9. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Disagree on he was more ready to turn over to the pro side than fury
    Its in fury's blood it aint in Joshua's
    How long do you think Tyson as been trading boxing honestly
    Josh is a nine year novice in retro spect that's the facts
     
  10. murphman22

    murphman22 Active Member Full Member

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    So Fury was more ready at 18 years old than Joshua was at 22, after 'winning' Olympic gold?
     
  11. liger1992

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    Yes because people like to watch him fight while people don't enjoy watching rigo fight.

    I'm not saying fury wasn't the deserved winner v Klitchko but I won't call it no masterclass like fury likes to claim it was.

    It was a boring fight with very little punches thrown from either guy. Why would anyone want to watch that again?
     
  12. Twentyman

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    Fury didn't take hardly any decent punches or get bounced around the ring (like AJ in 5th). Klitschko couldn't get an opportunity to throw a decent hook against Fury. That's a masterclass in nullifying an opponent mate.

    AJ took some huge shots on Saturday...that's not great boxing that's poor defence. His finishing however is something else.
     
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  13. ashishwarrior

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    The skill level at elite Olympic is greater than British level IMO not as long fighting sense but the level
    Savon > McDermott skill technique hell in every department other than maybe toughness
    And to awnser your question for a British title yes
    Hughie as been boxing longer than josh ffs and he is five years younger than josh but probably as had way more boxing everything training being around the boxing fraternity input from all over the globe champions in the fighting family challengers in the family camps here own gym there
    I can't believe your serious
     
  14. murphman22

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    It's depends what you like. I can watch either but it was a masterclass. Joshua was bang in trouble in round 11, fair enough he pulled it out.

    Fury wasn't in trouble. He schooled Klitchsko, out moved him and took his weapons away. Joshua will always out sell Klitchsko for a variety of reasons. One of them being his style is more exciting especially to a casual audience. Add in the matchroom/Sky hype train and you are made.
     
  15. murphman22

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    He's 18 mate. Think about it. Pointless continuing this conversation.