Who has the better resume, Lennox Lewis or Wladimir Klitschko

My thoughts are.... was your friend sniffing glue when he made that statement?

 

Absolute BS !!! Wlad had the chance to challenge Lennox after TKO-6. He didnt have the courage

 

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Wlad beat several very good contenders and some were titleholders

it was seen as a “weak era” because he was so dominant over everyone for 10+ years

Wlad and Vitali both had very good chances at beating Lewis. Vitali proved he could go toe to toe with Lewis. And I venture to say if McCall or Rahman could land a big shot and KO Lewis, Wlad stood a very good chance to as well, and Wlad had a MUCH harder shot than McCall or Rahman

the much needed Vitali Lewis rematch was a pick em fight. Lewis didn’t take his originally agreed upon rematch for good reason

 

I rewatched the Lewis Klitschko fight last week and couldn’t score the first 3 to Vitali which was strange. My memory was telling me Vitali had the first 3 in the bag, maybe it was because at the time I was impressed with Vitali and how well he was doing so I thought he had won the first 3. Seriously go rewatch the fight and score those first 3 rounds and yes you could make a case for Vitali but equally you could score 2 of those rounds for Lewis or give them 10-10.

The latter three rounds were definitely Lewis and Vit was taking some heavy heavy shots while his own power wasn’t bothering Lewis at all, not in the slightest, in fact Lennox was walking right through Vitali’s shots.

In the end, Lewis beat Vitali up and there was only one winner even if they’d let Vitali fight on for a 7th round. It was the right stoppage, Vitali’s face was butchered, they could maybe have stopped it earlier!

 

The judges gave the first 3 rounds to vitali. But my scorecard was slightly different, i felt like vitali won the first and the third, the second was even, and Lewis defenitely won the 4th, 5th and the last round of the fight.

 

Whilst I am also of the opinion Lopez should give Lomachenko a rematch, as it was a lot closer than Julie Lederman's card and some fans would have us believe, I don't understand the comparison to Lewis.

Lewis was the receiver of rematches (i.e. the beneficiary), not the giver...

In fact that is literally the argument people make to reduce Lewis' resume. He retired instead of giving Vitali a rematch...

Yes, but some of those circumstances included Bowe dumping his WBC belt in the bin, and Tyson paying step aside money before being stripped, because neither wanted to fight a mandatory against Lewis in the 90s.

 

I wonder if Wlad had beat Fury on a cut after losing on the cards and was ordered to rematch he'd have run away day before the deadline. I doubt it.

 

Well, Vitali and Wlad's resumes are more often under critic than Lewis resume. Of course, they are from EE.

Let's start. Lewis during his career had won 4 undefeated boxers, Vitali : 6 undefeated boxers.
Vitali appeared so " bad " that he was able to be WBC World Title holder from 2004 till 2012 and with 12 wins in title fights during this time.
Definitely there is seroious " proof " how " bad " Vitali was.
Vitali was WBC World Champion when he was 41 y.o.
"Weak era ".
Lewis for sure retired after fight vs Vitali and he was 38 y.o.

I initially never had attempted to pick up reality: a lot of so called marquee wins vs eastern euro boxers were when they were even older than 37 and then nothing wrong.
When this is western boxer, then yeah, he was over the hill and old ( I agree with this argument, no problems ). This if is used vs EE boxer is considered as boxer in his prime.

 

Sorry, I hadn't finished my post when you wrote that reply (not comfortable using multi-quotations yet) I wasn't actually arguing against Lewis.

But yes, I think those are fair points you raise.

 

To be honest, Lewis and not close.

 

Well, I even did not had intent argue against Lewis resume, however if there in thread is described Klit brothers lost fights and talked that these are proofs how bad they were.
Boxing is for reason to beat and most interesting thing is that fans are talking about boxer's faces.

If so, Lewis resume too might be devalued.
His losses are : he lasted vs McCall not full 2 rounds and lost via TKO.
He had been KOed by Rahman in 5 th round.
Vitaly had 2 lost fights via stoppages and one from them: this cut vs Lewis.

Lewis of course is great boxer, Olympic Champion and large, powerful and highly skilled boxer, no doubts.
He also had discutable draw vs Holyfield. Holyfield really was famous boxer but he was prime when he was CW boxer not HW boxer cos fastest version of Holyfield was impressive looking CW boxer Holyfield.
U.S boxing fans had scored this fight as Holyfield win, U.K boxing fans had scored this fight as Lewis win.
Judges scored this as a draw.

 

How did overseas boxing fans/media score it?

 

Lennox> Vitali> wlad Is the way it seemed to be going at first.
Lennox, undeniable great legacy> wlad the knockout artist> Vitali due to politics and back problems.