Who has the better resume: Ward or Crawford?

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Better resume?

  1. S.O.G.

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  2. Bud

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don’t believe that that fight was ever really viable back then.
     
  2. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Clearly Crawford. Did it at multiple weights, undisputed in 2.

    Dawson was a shadow of himself against Ward due to the extreme cut. Ward lost the first Kovalev fight and the second was controversial. Outside of that he's only really got Froch and Kessler.
     
  3. Loudon

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    I don’t see how it’s clearly Crawford.

    And you could say that outside of Spence, he only has guys like Porter, (which was controversial) as well as faded versions of Brook and Khan etc.

    He hasn’t got a great resume at all.

    The official accolades are nice, but as we know, a resume is rated on who you’ve fought and at what stage.
     
  4. bjl12

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    You are in a very deep minority that thinks Ward had ANY business winning Kovalev 1. An EXTREMELY small minority. That was an awful scoring by every judge involved.

    Bud Madrimov was nothing like Kovalev Ward 1. Not even the same stratosphere. Bud got the nod and did so by winning the championship rounds. Ward had GIFT rounds while Bud did not. I dont need a 1,000 word post to explain this
     
  5. bjl12

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    Crawford didnt have to ROB anyone or use Low Blow KDs to win a fight. Ward LOST to Kovalev in their 1st fight. Bud didnt. Simple.

    In fact Bud's closest fight was versus Madrimov and it was indeed close. I felt a draw was fair but Bud won the championship rounds. It was easier to see Bud winning 7-5 than Madrimov winning 7-5. And it was odd how inactive Madrimov was given his successes. Makes me think Bud had something to do with that...
     
  6. Loudon

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    I don’t think that it was a robbery, and Kovalev was broken down long before the final low blows in the rematch.

    We’re also not just comparing one fight.

    Also, we can question how good Spence was coming off of inactivity and his car crash.

    Either way, Crawford isn’t clearly ahead.

    His resume isn’t impressive. But hopefully he’ll improve it before he retires.
     
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    Losing Kovalev 1 and having a controversial win in rematch versus Kovalev really devalues what Ward did. He is still among the best 168lbers ever but I'd favor almost every ATG 168er over Ward (besides Canelo). Hell, I even think GGG would've beaten Ward at 168.

    Crawford fought in much more dyamic weights with far more history. Despite that he still would be live versus any fighter in history at 140 or 147...albeit he would be a significant underdog at WW against a few people
     
  8. iceferg

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    That would be ignoring his resume at lightweight and and light welterweight. If you're putting Green and Miranda on Ward's list that's like adding the likes of Presscott to Crawford's list.
     
  9. catchwtboxing

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    You can believe as you like. Kovalev landed more punches, scored the knockdown...it was actually not that close a fight, and most people agree.
     
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    To be fair I don't think there was enough money in that matchup to make. Both guys would need to be paid megamillions.
     
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  12. Loudon

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    None of this is relevant though.

    It doesn’t matter if Crawford has fought in weights with far more history.

    It doesn’t matter if you think that he’s a better fighter.

    This is a thread looking specifically at their resumes.
     
  13. Loudon

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    I’m not ignoring anybody.

    We can add Burns and whoever else.

    He hasn’t clearly got a better resume than Ward.

    But his career isn’t over yet. So hopefully he will have a better resume within the next few years.
     
  14. Loudon

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    That’s fine.

    But it has nothing to do with how he was broken both mentally and physically afterwards.
     
  15. Loudon

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    It was very odd when those statements by both guys became public knowledge,

    I never understood any of it.

    Because at the time, GGG was about to fight Lemieux for his 2nd MW belt, where he was also solely focused upon an undisputed fight with Canelo afterwards.

    And Ward had been inactive due to injury and contractual disputes, where he’d publicly admitted that he wasn’t sure if he could still make SMW.

    So the timing was very strange.

    At that point, neither fighter could have committed to a fight.

    And then by the time that GGG had finally got Canelo in the ring, Ward was up at LHW.

    So the fight was just never viable.
     
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