Who has the better SMW resume Froch or Ward... Think

Froch has the better resume, Ward is the better fighter, but BUTE KO5 Ward if they ever fight.deal:deal

 

I don't know how there can be a comparison between these 2 fighters- they're stratospheres apart as far as skill and level of dominance at the highest stage.

Froch lost twice officially in the SUPer 6. I personally thought he lost his fight with Andre DIrell quite clearly and decisively in the opening round, but the fight was in the UK where robberies are the norm.

Than he was losing quite clearly to Jermain Taylor for the majority of their bout until Froch caught him late and knocked him out.

Personally I thought Froch lost three times in that tournament. No one is going to have me believe that Froch beat Direll, because he clearly didn't.

Now Ward went undefeated in the same tournament and he wasn't really challenged by anyone at all in the SUPer 6. It would've been great to see him fight Direll, I thought that potential matchup could've been competitive.

Froch is a very good fighter and has carved out a pretty nice career for himself. Ward is the # 2 P4P fighter in the sport and has a stranglehold on the 168 division. Even GGG who is somehow considered a boogeyman in the sport (which is unwarranted,) has no interest in fighting the lineal SMW champ.

I'd like to see Froch-Ward 2. Only way Froch has a chance is if they rob Ward in NOttingham.

 

I don't know if you're being facetious or not, but if you are serious, than I must tell you that I've never heard anyone share that opinion about a potential Bute-Ward matchup.

Ward would knock him out anywhere, in Montreal, Romania, even in Bute's mom's backyard.

Lucian is a fraud and was completely exposed once he left his comfort zone that is Canada. Truthfully, that first Andrade fight was very controversial and Lucian was probably on the bad end of some **** poor refereeing. I'm still surprised he's continued boxing after Froch gave him one of the worst beatings I've seen in a while between 2 top rated fighters.

 

LOL.
This from the guy that says Hopkins was prime when he faced Calzaghe. Now That's amusing which is why I generally ignore you.:rofl

 

Stop lying!

You specifically said that Hopkins was in his prime and that Calzaghe was old.
How does one expect to explain anything to someone who makes those kind of ****** ass statements? It's not worth my time. :yep

Ward's wins over prime Froch and Dawson are better than Calzaghe's win over an old Hopkins, a washed up Jones, and a B- level Lacy.
In fact, Ward's win over Edwin Rodriquez is better than Calzaghe's win over Lacy.
Kessler? Ward beat him much more convincingly than Calzaghe ever could. :yep

 

Calzaghe took on a prime Kessler in the middle of Kessler best run of opponents. Kessler beat WBA Champion Siaca, former and future WBA Champion Mundine, former WBC Champion Lucas, WBC Champion Beyer and contender level Andrade before losing to Calzaghe.

Ward beat a Kessler two years and three fights removed from his loss to Calzaghe, and not one of those opponents Kessler fought between those fights had been anywhere near the level of even Andrade.

Froch lost to a Kessler coming straight off a loss to Ward complaining of problems seeing clearly.

Dawson was weight drained. Not Ward's fault but it does diminish the accomplishment somewhat.

Calzaghe win over Hopkins, close and arguable though it may be, is still more significant than Ward's win over Dawson because he moved up to fight the Light Heavyweight King on Hopkins' own turf while Ward got Dawson to drop down and come to Oakland for a fight.

Though it might be true that Ward beat Dawson in impressive fashion it is also true that Froch destroyed Bute in a fashion every bit as impressive, and that, unlike Froch and Calzaghe, Ward does not have a signature win over a top level opponent as the away fighter.

 

Ward's win over Froch is comparable to Calzaghe's win over Kessler. Froch was prime when Ward beat him, Kessler was prime when Calzaghe beat him, the main difference being Kessler was undefeated and holding two belts when he lost while Froch had already been beaten by Kessler and only held one belt when he lost.

Hopkins was Light Heavyweight King and P4P #4 fighting Calzaghe in the Light Heavyweight division at a venue of his choosing. Dawson was Light Heavyweight King and outside the top 10 P4P fighting Ward at Super Middleweight at a venue of Ward's choosing. Dawson was weight drained, Hopkins was at a weight he was comfortable if not natural in. Hopkins was a more significant win for Calzaghe than Dawson was for Ward.

Rodriguez has never got anywhere near a world title and was an easy fight for Ward after over a years inactivity. Lacy ranks higher. In fact, if Rodriguez is comparable to anyone on Calzaghe's resume then its Mario Veit of David Starie if not, indeed, Tocker Pudwill.

Perhaps, but he also fought a much dirtier fight than Calzaghe did and got away with a lot of clinching and a lot of headbutting, unintentional or otherwise. And that was over a Kessler who had stagnated and not fought a world level opponent in two years.

 

Kessler was always a hype. he got even further hyped when they matched him up with Calzaghe who until then had only faced/defeated bums.

Siaca, Mundine, Lucas, Beyer and Andrade were all one dimensional Euro-bums who aren't anywhere near the level of Ward, and not even close to Froch. That Kessler made his name by defeating these B level opponents says all you need to know about how hyped kessler really was.

Dawson wasn't anywhere near weight drained. This is just a wild baseless opinion made by those who DKSAB.
(1) Dawson agreed to take the fight at a catchweight. His title wasn't on the line, Ward's was. (2) Dawson kinows his weight limitations better than you and the DKSAB crowd (3) No where in any post fight interview has Dawson blamed his loss on the weight limit.
Learn something about boxing and you'll stop making these ****** ass lame proclamations.

Bute's most important win before facing Froch was an old Glen Johnson. That tells you everything you need to know about the Bute hype.
Anyone who believes that Bute ever had a chance against Ward is on Heroin. :yep

 

Rather impressive that Siaca, Mundine, Lucas and Andrade managed to be "Euro-bums" when Siaca's a Puerto Rican, Mundine's an Australian, Lucas is Canadian and Andrade's from Mexico.

 

Froch by a country mile.

Add to the fact that he's fought all over the world, been in MUCH bigger fights and hasn't made anyone come down to his weight. It's a no brainer.

Ward is a better Boxer, that's a fact. And he is No.1 in the division. But who is he fighting, really? Froch is fighting in front of EIGHTY THOUSAND PEOPLE in a few weeks - Ward will probably be fighting in Oaklahoma (zzzz) in front of 3k people (zzz) against a bum.

Ward is a special talent, but he is a p*ssy.