Who has the greate legacy, Joe Calzaghe or John Ruiz?

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  1. hambone

    hambone Member Full Member

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    [quote="TKO";3107415]If this is a wind-up it's a bad one. If not, then I am speechless! Calzaghe has beaten three times as many world class fighters at his weight as Ruiz has, plus he's never been beaten up by guys who started 70lbs lighter than him, or sparked in 19 seconds![/quote]

    You stupid dick!

    He fought ROY WHILE IN HIS ****ING PRIME, NOT WHEN HE WAS A 40 Year OLD and SHOT, ****IN OLD MAN!
     
    hambone, Dec 22, 2008
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  2. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I dislike Calzaghe. However, he is the best-super middleweight ever, and therefore he must be considered an ATG. IMO.
     
    El Cepillo, Dec 22, 2008
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  3. ThePlugInBabies

    ThePlugInBabies ♪ ♫ Full Member

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    RJJ UD hugsy
    calzaghe UD RJJ

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    calzaghe UD hugsy.
     
    ThePlugInBabies, Dec 22, 2008
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  4. hambone

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    How so?

    Did you look at Ruiz's resume? It's damn solid. I don't see how anyone here can deny that, even inspite of his fighting style.
     
    hambone, Dec 22, 2008
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  5. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Didn't Ruiz lose to Valuev...twice...? Case closed.
     
    El Cepillo, Dec 22, 2008
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  6. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Honest question, is this a wind-up? It has to be, surely! Care to name all the victories on Ruiz's record which look so great besides the two spankings by blown up middleweights and 19 second flattening? All the world class fighters Ruiz has beaten and the same for Calzaghe! Then think about how stupid what you have just written looks!
     
    "TKO", Dec 22, 2008
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  7. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [quote="TKO";3107415]If this is a wind-up it's a bad one. If not, then I am speechless! Calzaghe has beaten three times as many world class fighters at his weight as Ruiz has, plus he's never been beaten up by guys who started 70lbs lighter than him, or sparked in 19 seconds![/quote]
    this is not true at all...but RUIZ is not better than calzaghe...I do not care who he has foguth in his life
     
    pauliemayweathe, Dec 22, 2008
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  8. hambone

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    [quote="TKO";3107445]Honest question, is this a wind-up? It has to be, surely! Care to name all the victories on Ruiz's record which look so great besides the two spankings by blown up middleweights and 19 second flattening? All the world class fighters Ruiz has beaten and the same for Calzaghe! Then think about how stupid what you have just written looks![/quote]


    Oh, so you decided to not look at the two. Despite the fact that I posted the links directly to them.

    So your only argument is denial.:bart
     
    hambone, Dec 22, 2008
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  9. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This answers my question I think. /Thread!
     
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  10. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Erm, no. I've had good looks at both of them, not that I really need to as I am familiar enough with each fighter's resume.

    World class fighters on Calzaghe's resume:

    Eubank
    Reid
    Sheika
    Woodhall
    Brewer
    Mitchell
    Lacy
    Bika
    Kessler
    Hopkins

    World class fighters on Ruiz's record:

    Holyfield
    Johnson
    Rahman
    Golota
    Oquendo
    McCline

    That is being generous to Ruiz and calling guys like Oquendo and McCline coming off two straight losses as world class. Plus factor in Calzaghe has never lost, let alone to two guys who started 70lbs lighter than him, or been sparked in 19 seconds!
     
    "TKO", Dec 22, 2008
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  11. ruizfan

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    Based on opposition, Ruiz has a greater legacy. Joe fought a way past his prime Jones and Hopkins. Both knocked him down and the second should have won the decision.

    BTW, the ATG thing was a joke.
     
    ruizfan, Dec 22, 2008
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  12. 1Kolijn

    1Kolijn Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holyfield or Jerry strickland :patsch
     
    1Kolijn, Dec 22, 2008
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  13. Sean101

    Sean101 Active Member Full Member

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    Calling him Slappy just shows your a hater, i did look at the records and saw one fighter who defended his world title 21 times and is undefeated and someone who has lost 8 times (should be 9 but Fatboy Toney decision was changed) and his only good name is Holyfield.
     
    Sean101, Dec 22, 2008
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  14. butler08

    butler08 Active Member Full Member

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    think about it
    joe beat a past prime roy jones
    past prime roy jones beat a prime ruiz
    what does that tell you
     
    butler08, Dec 22, 2008
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  15. hambone

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    [quote="TKO";3107477]Erm, no. I've had good looks at both of them, not that I really need to as I am familiar enough with each fighter's resume.

    World class fighters on Calzaghe's resume:

    Eubank (2 weeks to prepare, coming off a 2 year layoff and past his prime, give me a ****ing break).
    Reid (nobody)
    Sheika (nobody)
    Woodhall (nobody)
    Brewer (shot to pieces)
    Mitchell (nobody)
    Lacy (hype)
    Bika (nobody)
    Kessler (a good fighter)
    Hopkins ( a ****ing old man)

    [/quote]

    **** I'm surpised you didn't add Manfredo to your shitty list.
     
    hambone, Dec 22, 2008
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